From: Otto Stolz (Otto.Stolz@uni-konstanz.de)
Date: Thu Apr 10 2008 - 09:44:39 CDT
Hello Andreas Prilop,
you have written:
> View the above page with
> - Firefox 2
> - Internet Explorer 6
> - Internet Explorer 7
> using the same typeface(s) and note the differences.
OK. I’ll try it again, with the browsers
- Firefox 126.96.36.199
- IE 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_gdr.070227-2254
- IE 7.0.5730.11
and the fonts:
- proportional: TITUS Cyberbit Basic 3.0
- fixed-pitch: Lucida Console 1.60
In IE, I have chosen these fonts for both Latin, Greek and
Cyrillic scripts. I have also adjusted the font size, so
the three programs render your page at approximately the
With this setup, I can spot no difference between the
three browsers’ rendering of your examples.
I guess that the differences you have seen, stem from
the following quirks in the browsers:
- IE has script-specific font settings; to be sure that
you use the same font, everywhere, you have to assign
it specifically for all scripts contained in your example
- If a particular character is missing in the font you have
specified, Firefox will get it from another font, which
IE doesn’t. Hence you have to use a font comprising all
characters contained in your example text.
Or perhaps from the following pitfall in fonts:
- The glyphs rendered may well depend on the font-size used.
After this test, I maintain: The differences are a matter
of fonts rather than programs (except for some clever stop-
gaps, as discussed for Firefox, or, of course, for possible
> Internet Explorer 6 shows letters with grave accent.
> Can't you see them?
With the setup discussed above, I see ties everywhere.
This shows that you have to be very careful in setting up
a software test, and that you have to describe the outcome
rather specifically (just “experience the surprise” is not
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