RE: On the possibility of encoding a portable interpretable object code into Unicode

From: Tex Texin (textexin@xencraft.com)
Date: Thu Mar 26 2009 - 20:28:51 CST

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    William,

    I do not see the problem you are trying to solve or the need for your proposal.
    I mention that, only so it doesn't seem like I am endorsing your idea.

    That said, I think you have made your point that you see value in this idea and seek others to help you with it.
    Certainly this list is not the place to design a solution.
    It seems like the next step is for interested parties to contact you and work on the details offlist.

    The academic discussion of the concept seems to have come to a natural pause. Further discussion isn't useful until it is clear which operations can be performed, what it would be used for, what the benefits are, how it works, etc.
    That level of development isn't appropriate for this list. You might set up a list for the purpose. Yahoo groups for example would make it easy to do so.

    My 2 cents.
    tex

    -----Original Message-----
    From: unicode-bounce@unicode.org [mailto:unicode-bounce@unicode.org] On Behalf Of William_J_G Overington
    Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 12:08 PM
    To: Unicode Mailing List; Doug Ewell
    Cc: James Kass; wjgo_10009@btinternet.com
    Subject: Re: On the possibility of encoding a portable interpretable object code into Unicode

    On Wednesday, 25 March 2009, Doug Ewell <doug@ewellic.org> wrote:
     
    > I'd suggest, then, that if William wants these to be
    > considered for encoding, it might be helpful to actually
    > build a virtual machine that interprets them and works
    > correctly, and see if it can be embedded in, or made widely
    > available as an add-on to, a popular product such as Adobe
    > Reader, Firefox, or Google Chrome. (It might help if this
    > mechanism is seen as strategically important to an
    > organization represented on the UTC.) Demonstrate that the
    > mechanism works, and ideally that it will not lead to a rash
    > of viruses and spyware and browser takeovers. Establish
    > popular usage in the PUA so that the
    > "interoperability" and "existing
    > implementations" arguments are compelling, and then
    > write your proposal for Unicode.

    Well, I have the problem of writing the interpreter. I am
    rather hoping that if I can generate interest in the idea
    then maybe someone who has the programming facilities,
    knowledge and skill to write the interpreter might do so and
    then publish it.

    Also, I am not thinking in terms of it being me who writes
    the proposal for Unicode. I am hoping that the idea of
    encoding a portable interpretable object code into regular
    Unicode will become of interest to many people and that many
    people can participate in designing the best system
    possible. I am not seeking to be in charge of that process.
    It needs people with expertise in advanced computing to
    guide the research and development.

    It may take many years to achieve.

    I have thought of some uses, such as multimedia
    broadcasting on digital television channels and also use in
    Ultracode labels. Readers are invited to think of other
    uses of a portable interpretable object code encoded into
    regular Unicode.

    William Overington

    26 March 2009

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