Re: Bengali Script

From: Tulasi (
Date: Fri Jul 23 2010 - 00:57:23 CDT

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    Doug -->
    When speaking in English, in the United States, would you say...
    1. Kolkata or Calcutta?

    By citing "Kolkata or Calcutta" Doug highlighted a phenomenal vowel
    phoneme behaviour for human being.

    I will let you think what it is, and discover :-')

    The original word before Calcutta was "kalikātā" or "calikātā"
    (k/c what you prefer to use like Electronic / Elaktronik)

    Calcutta initially never sounded like how it sounds in American today.

    Call + Cutting -> Call + Cutta -> Calcutta
    (so do you get how to read Calcutta correctly)
    Cal here Sanskritized exactly Call or "kal" Cutta is "kātā" so
    Calcutta = "kalkātā"

    Since British India to today Bengali lost hundreds of words that ends
    with Sanskrit first vowel and transposed to vowel "o" probably 12th

    see the path
    "kalikātā" --> "kalkātā" (English Calcutta) --> "kolkātā" (English Kolkata)
    Since 18 century to date

    Iṅgreji --> Speaking English in current Bengali
    Iṅgliṣ --> Speaking English in probably South Indian language
    Oṅreji --> Speaking English probably in North Indian language

    You see that in above too, the alteration is vowel phoneme.

    Now have I given you enough clue how to discover what is causing this
    phenomenal vowel pattern?


    From: Michael Everson <>
    Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 20:58:40 +0100
    Subject: Re: Bengali Script
    To: unicode Unicode Discussion <>

    On 12 Jul 2010, at 20:32, Eric Muller wrote:

    > The Government of West Bengal / Society for Natural Language Technology Research (a member of the Consortium) has a very strong preference for the term "Bengla" rather than "Bengali".

    As a speaker of English I have a very strong preference for the term "Bengali".

    We don't insist that they start saying Iṅgliṣ instead of Iṅgreji. Nor
    should we.

    Similarly, they should not insist that we say Baṅgla.

    What a bungle.

    Michael Everson *

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