From: Mark Rosa (ll077003@mail.ecc.u-tokyo.ac.jp)
Date: Thu Mar 10 2011 - 01:08:47 CST
That symbol for 11 looks less like an L and more like an upside-down 7 from the font "Didot".
http://www.identifont.com/samples/adobe/Didot.gif
My guess is that that's how the original author produced this sign, rather than make a specially-bent "L", but you never know.
Mark
----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Luke-Jr" <luke@dashjr.org>
>> To: unicode@unicode.org
>> Date: 2011-03-10 05:07:05
>> Subject: Re: Assigning a plane for mapping digits for many different bases
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 09, 2011 2:17:21 pm Julian Bradfield wrote:
>> > On 2011-03-09, Peter Constable <petercon@microsoft.com> wrote:
>> > > From: David Starner [mailto:prosfilaes@gmail.com]
>> > >
>> > >> I don't understand your message.
>> > >> http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015017382519;page=root;view=
>> > >> image;size=100;seq=15;num=7 shows a page from a book on the duodecimal
>> > >> system that
>> > >> uses two completely new characters for 10 and 11, that can
>> > >> not be unified with any other characters in Unicode.
>> > >
>> > > If there are characters in established usage that are truly new and
>> > > that cannot be unified with existing characters, then they can be
>> > > considered for encoding. It's not clear to me that the characters on
>> > > that page for ten and eleven satisfy those criteria. In particular,
>> > > the character for ten appears to be nothing more than LATIN CAPITAL
>> > > LETTER T. I can't tell what the letterform for eleven is--whether
>> > > it's some kind of script l or a script-form ligature of e and l.
>> >
>> > Not at all. The numeral for ten is clearly NOT a LATIN CAPITAL LETTER
>> > T - rather, it's a symbol that has been designed to be reminiscent of
>> > but distinct from a T (compare it with the Ts on the same page);
>> > similarly the eleven symbol is a special sort that is like L but not
>> > the same. This is explained on page 15: (duodecimal), which since the
>> > OCR doesn't understand non-decimal page numbers is reached by going to
>> > (decimal) page 15 in the jump to page box.
>> > Of course, as it says, T and L can be used if you don't have the
>> > special sorts.
>>
>> More relevant, in my experience: how many people actually use this number
>> system? The tonal number system (base 8*2) has entirely new digits for the
>> high range, yet Unicode won't even consider encoding it without a large
>> community of actual usage.
>>
>>
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