From: André Szabolcs Szelp (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Thu Jun 09 2011 - 01:11:11 CDT
While calling (and defining) IPA as a language is clearly a dead end (and
cannot be argued in any way), one might want to consider IPA as a separate
So a new Script tag "Ipha" might be introducable. Peter's example could be
Actually, quite some arguments speaks for recognizing IPA as a writing
system, though further disunification work should be done in this case.*
Some of these reasons are (just stating the most blatant ones):
- borrowing from multiple, very different scripts (latin, greek, even arabic
(horns ram < ayin),
- use of letters altered to an extent, that some of them are barely
- IPA-specific diacritics.
- And most importantly, being caseless. (Reborrowing of IPA symbols into
certain Latin scripts, mostly of young literary languages, where they get
casing pairs is an entirely different matter).
* I understand that this is the exact matter why the committees are hesitant
to touch this hot potatoe. It is something which would need a lot of
thorough consideration, could have relatively broad scope, and which can be
easily smashed down (without further detailed resoning) with "encoding
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:36 AM, Peter Constable <email@example.com>wrote:
> IPA is not a language; it is a writing convention. The language of a text
> is a separate matter. If, for example, you have an IPA transcription of
> (say) Thai-language utterances, then a tag that identifies both the language
> as being Thai and the written form as being IPA would be "th-Latn-fonipa".
> -----Original Message-----
> From: firstname.lastname@example.org [mailto:email@example.com] On
> Behalf Of Marion Gunn
> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 3:37 PM
> To: Otto Stolz
> Cc: firstname.lastname@example.org
> Subject: Re: Character Identity and Font Selection
> I agree. I made the argument for making IPA so (many years ago), so I
> cannot but agree with you.
> Scrobh 08/06/2011 12:21, Otto Stolz:
> > ...If IPA characters cannot be dis-unified from Latin, and Greek,
> > characters, eventually the text-processing, and the rendering,
> > software should solve the problem via language data, as outlined
> > above; i. e., IPA should be handled as a ‘language’, in its own right.
> > Best wishes,
> > Otto Stolz
> Marion Gunn * eGteo (Estab.1991)
> 27 Páirc an Fhéithlinn, Baile an
> Bhóthair, An Charraig Dhubh,
> Co. Átha Cliath, Éire/Ireland.
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