Re: ligature usage - WAS: How do we find out what assigned code points aren't normally used in text?

From: Philippe Verdy <>
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:29:27 +0200

2011/9/12 Jukka K. Korpela <>

> 12.9.2011 18:19, Philippe Verdy wrote:
> Yes, but some web browsers like Firefox automatically apply an `fl'
>> ligature...
>> Well, not just Firefox, because Chrome is now doing the same thing for
>> this message !
> Can you give more details? I just checked that my Chrome (Win 7) is
> up-to-date and tested with a simple document, and it did not apply any
> ligatures (for fi or fl). As far as I know, Firefox has applied ligatures
> for some time _but_ only for some font face and size combinations by default
> and controllable by the CSS property text-rendering. I still think it was a
> bad move to start applying ligatures by default on the web where none were
> applied so far.

I see those ligatures applied in Chrome v.13.0.782.220 over Windows 7 SP1
French, just when reading this email in Gmail which renders it with the
stock Arial font of Windows (no webfont used). My locale preferences in the
browser and in my Gmail profile are first in French (France), then English

Zoom in, you'll see that these ligatures are rendered by default. Still you
can select the individual letters in "fi" or "fl" or "ffi" or "ffl",
copy-pasting to another document from the browser generates 2 characters,
and a DOM inspection of the HTML document with the Developers tools shows
that there are affectively two letters in the HTML document (and no ZWJ in
the middle).

May be you have a different (German?) locale, for which Chrome does not
perform these ligatures by default.
-- Philippe.
Received on Mon Sep 12 2011 - 12:33:11 CDT

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