Re: missing characters: combining marks above runs of more than 2 base letters

From: Philippe Verdy <>
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 02:24:52 +0100

2011/11/18 Ken Whistler <>:
> On 11/17/2011 11:28 PM, Philippe Verdy wrote:
>> Could the Unicode text specify that a left half mark, when it is
>> followed by a right half-mark on the same line, has to be joined ? And
>> which character can we select in a font to mark the intermediate
>> characters between them ?
> No.
> This kind of stuff is not plain text.
> Mathematicians and musical scorere
> long ago got over
> the notion that marking of scoped constructs (with beams and ties in music,
> and similar kinds of scoping for expressions in math) could be plain text.

This arc in the example is definitely NOT mathematics (even if you
have read a version where it was attempted to represent it using a
Math TeX notation in this page, an obvious error because it used an
angular \widehat and not the appropriate sign). This arc is a true
phonetic mark of a contextual elision (the intermediate letter(s) are
not to be pronounced, even though they are still written to explicit
the phonetically elided word(s) and keep their usual orthography).

Exactly similar to other phonetic symbols like the elision tie (an arc
adjoininig two words to elide its separating space), or the apostrophe
(which replaces completely the elided letters).

And obviously a true candidate for plain-text: it provides
simultaneouly two readings of the text, one is purely phonetic (and
accurate for poems that have an essential and very strong rythmic
structure), another is semantic (by the orthography kept). All letters
have to be present in some way, even if some of them are marked for
the expected phonetic.

-- Philippe.
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