Re: Key Curry : Attempting to make it easy to type world languages and orthographies on the web

From: Philippe Verdy <>
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 04:51:05 +0200

Your input method only needs to detect the characters, don't use the
keycodes at all, they are not portable.

Note: there are more keys than what you think: not just the A/Q and
Z/W pair are swapped, the M is placed on the side of L instead of N,
and all punctuation signs are moved, as well as all keys in the first
row, plus the <> key on the left of WXCVBN...

Don't assume any CTRL, ALT, or AltGr (CTRL+ALT) combination, don't
assume the SHIFT key, and beware that the CAPSLOCK mode on a French
keyboard is disabled when pressing SHIFT...

You don't need keycodes for your input method that just associates
pairs of characters (a letter plus a punctuation sign), just use the
characters as they are typed.

Le 18 avril 2012 03:56, Ed Trager <> a écrit :
> Thank you, Philippe!
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Philippe Verdy <> wrote:
>> Apparently your online input method does not support any other native
>> keyboard than a US QWERTY;
> Yes - excellent criticism; and at this time this is unfortunately
> true. I thought about this problem when reading French language
> materials to research the Pan-African keyboard.
> Originally I thought that the solution to this problem would require
> crafting keyboard layouts specifically for AZERTY.  However, I now
> think that a much more general solution can be implemented without
> needing to actually alter the QWERTY-based keymaps.
> Only a few keys on the keyboard differ between QWERTY and AZERTY, so
> it should be possible to just remap those keys (or their key codes) on
> the fly in the processing stream.  I would be very happy to discuss
> with you how to solve this (off list).  I don't personally have access
> to any AZERTY devices and most of the Francophone people I know who
> probably use AZERTY are not technically savvy.  However if you and
> possibly some other folks on this list or elsewhere have some time to
> answer my various questions --and contribute your opinions on what you
> think is the correct way that it should work-- then I think it is a
> very solvable problem.  Also, if done correctly, such a solution can
> be used for other common keyboard layouts beyond AZERTY too.
> - Ed
>> you seem to bond keycodes instead of the
>> punctuation characters indicated. E.g. an a French Azerty keyboard
>> typing "c;" does not replace it with "ç", you have to type "c$"
>> instead (the dollar sign is typed on a French keyboard on the last key
>> of the second row, near the Enter key, where the US keyboard maps the
>> semicolon).
>> Why do you use scancodes to make the compositions ?
>> It's hard to convince people that your input method is "Pan European"
>> if it requires a native US keyboard.
>> Le 17 avril 2012 23:40, Ed Trager <> a écrit :
>>> A long time in the making, I am finally making "Key Curry" public!
>>> "Key Curry" is a web application and set of web components that allows
>>> one to easily type many world languages and specialized orthographies
>>> on the web. Please check it out and provide me feedback:
>>> In addition to supporting major world languages and orthographies, I
>>> hope that "Key Curry" makes it easy for language advocates and web
>>> developers to provide support for the orthographies of minority
>>> languages -- many of which are not currently supported (or are only
>>> poorly supported) by the major operating system vendors.
>>> Under the hood, the software uses a javascript user interface
>>> framework that I wrote called "Gladiator Components" along with the
>>> popular "jQuery" javascript library as a foundation. I have used HTML
>>> 5 technologies such as localStorage to implement certain features.
>>> Currently, Key Curry appears to work well in the latest versions of
>>> Google Chrome, Firefox, and Safari on devices with standard QWERTY
>>> keyboards (e.g. laptops, desktop computers, netbooks, etc.). Recent
>>> versions of Opera and Internet Explorer version 9 appear to have bugs
>>> which limit the ability of Key Curry to operate as designed. The app
>>> is not likely to work well on older versions of any browser. I have
>>> not yet tested IE 10 on Windows 8.
>>> Although Key Curry appears to load flawlessly on the very few Android
>>> and Apple iOS tablet and/or mobile devices that I have "dabbled" with,
>>> the virtual keyboards on those devices are very different from
>>> physical keyboards and I have not yet investigated that problem area
>>> at all - so don't expect it to work on your iPad or other mobile
>>> device.
>>> Constructive criticism and feedback is most welcome. I have many
>>> additional plans for Key Curry "in the works" - but I'll leave further
>>> commentary to another day!
>>> - Ed
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