RE: Arabic quoting characters

From: Michael Fayez <>
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 20:24:02 +0200

Thank you all for your clarifications. I think there should be some clear hints that the correct glyphs of these two characters «» specifically are rounded in Arabic context as the pointed version is never used in printing except rarely (double quotes and parentheses are used in computer texts) . I checked 3 fonts Traditional Arabic, Simplified Arabic and Arabic Typesetting and none of them has the rounded version.And yes as Dough Ewell said characters U+2E28 and U+2E29 can be used in new data. They have the correct shape and properties though with the wrong size unfortunately.
> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 14:03:07 +0300
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> Subject: Re: Arabic quoting characters
> 2013-06-14 22:30, Stephan Stiller wrote:
> > On 6/14/2013 11:45 AM, Roozbeh Pournader wrote:
> >> They are unified with the double angle quotation marks. Persian also
> >> uses the round version (and if if I remember correctly, Greek too).
> >
> > Where can one find such information?
> It’s somewhat implicit, but still relatively clear:
> “Punctuation. Most punctuation marks used with the Arabic script are not
> given independent codes (that is, they are unified with Latin
> punctuation), except for the few cases where the mark has a
> significantly different appearance in Arabic—namely, U+060C arabic
> comma, U+061B arabic semicolon, U+061E arabic triple dot punctuation
> mark, U+061F arabic question mark, and U+066A arabic percent sign.”
> The Unicode Standard, Ch. 7,
> page 252 (by the numbering of the standard).
> Thus, quotation marks used in Arabic, other than those listed as
> exceptions, are supposed to be identified as the same as Latin quotation
> marks with closest resemblance, and any differences are to be considered
> as glyph variation.
> > I'm wondering whose task it should be considered to record such
> > information – because if it's noone's responsibility ...
> Well, if the world were perfect, the Consortium would maintain a
> database that provides, for each code point, a comprehensive compilation
> of normative and descriptive statements about the character in the
> Unicode standard or related documents. But this would require money and
> enthusiasm, and it’s not the way standards organizations work: they
> focus on rigorous definitions, not easily accessible information.
> Yucca

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