Re: Are you CONFUSED about WHAT CHARACTER(S) you type?!?!

From: philip chastney <>
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 02:46:49 -0700

a couple of points that you might like to take into account:

1) who is going to finance the development of these freely distributable fonts?

2) how is old software expected to handle codepoints allocated after the software was released?

both of these issues are solvable, and I woulldn't expect them to be solved soon


On Thu, 26/3/15, Michael McGlothlin <> wrote:

 Subject: Re: Are you CONFUSED about WHAT CHARACTER(S) you type?!?!
 To: "Shervin Afshar" <>
 Cc: "Robert Wheelock" <>, "" <>
 Date: Thursday, 26 March, 2015, 7:53 AM
 but with a couple differences. Most important would be
 getting vendors to actually use the font. Also it should be
 appropriate to actually display the characters rather than
 being debugging information.
 Does this last resort font represent
 every character in some meaningful way? e.g. I've tried
 to use somewhat rare characters like runes before and it was
 a pretty big pain to find fonts that were free to
 distribute, weren't buggy, and displayed the correct
 symbol for that character. And some applications
 wouldn't display them correctly even after installing a
 font. (Visual Studio let me use runes as variable names and
 compiled fine but wouldn't actually display the rune
 from my iPad
 On Mar 25,
 2015, at 5:18 PM, Shervin Afshar <>
 Just like Unicode Last
 Resort Font[1]?
 Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Michael McGlothlin <>
 I'd like to see a
 free/open "default" font that has a correct,
 simple styled, symbol for every Unicode character. Vendors
 should be pressured to use this font when other options
 aren't available. I get tired of seeing default symbols,
 incorrect symbols, and mystery white spaces that aren't
 really white space. It's pretty silly to have a code
 point without a default symbol I think.
 McGlothlinSent from my iPhone
 On Mar 25,
 2015, at 12:20 PM, Robert Wheelock <>
 When you’re typing, do you find
 yourself winding up being CONFUSED over what you type?!?! 
 It’s a crucially SERIOUS matter—especially when typing
 on a computer!
 For instance:  When you
 type in a HOLLOW HEART SUIT (U+02661), it may show up as an
 (U+0039E)... it all DEPENDS on whatever FONT you’re using
 to type with!
 The default Microsoft
 Sans Serif font (within Microsoft Windows) has this
 ABOMINABLE habit of substituting this IDENTICAL TO SIGN
 (which should be at U+02261)—because Microsoft
 (regrettably) placed this math symbol where the HOLLOW HEART
 SUIT should be (at U+02661)!
 What Microsoft SHOULD DO is THIS:  Please move the
 IDENTICAL TO SIGN from (U+02661—the location where the
 (U+02261)!!  THAT would be MUCH better!!
 you come across?!?!
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