Re: Dark beer emoji

From: Steve Swales <>
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 14:01:21 -0700

Personally, I love this idea, and would like to claim first authorship ๐Ÿ˜‰. Hereโ€™s a snippet from the email I sent to my old colleagues at Apple back on April 15th (not the 1st):

> Hi, Apple iOS/Keyboard/Design//I18n folks,
> Just wanted to say, nice work on the new Emoji keyboard design and expanded repertoire. I desperately wish the skin tone modifiers would work on the beer emoji, however. Need my porter and stout. Maybe next update? For old times' sake? ๐Ÿ˜ƒ .


> On Sep 1, 2015, at 9:37 AM, Doug Ewell <> wrote:
> Document L2/15-211, "Letter in support of dark beer emoji"
> <>, is a
> request submitted by Cuauhtรฉmoc Moctezuma, a Mexican brewery.
> The letter refers to a petition with more than 22,000 signatures
> supporting such an emoji, and may have at least some commercial
> motivation ("We want the dark beer to be part of peoples
> conversations").
> As an alternative to this proposal that may provide more flexibility, I
> propose adapting the Fitzpatrick skin-tone modifiers from U+1F3FB to
> U+1F3FF to be valid for use following U+1F37A BEER MUG or U+1F37B
> This could be done by establishing a normative correlation between the
> Fitzpatrick scale and the Standard Reference Method (SRM), Lovibond,
> and/or European Brewery Convention (EBC) beer color scales
> <>.
> This mechanism would allow the entire spectrum of beer styles to be
> depicted, instead of dividing beers arbitrarily into "light" and "dark,"
> in the same way (and for the same reason) that Unicode already supports
> a variety of skin tones.
> For example, a Budweiser or similar lager could be represented as
> ๐Ÿบ๐Ÿป <1F37A, 1F3FB>, while a Newcastle Brown Ale might be ๐Ÿบ๐Ÿฝ
> <1F37A, 1F3FD>. U+1F3FF could denote imperial stout or Baltic porter.
> There might be a need to encode an additional "Type 0" color modifier to
> extend the "light" end of the scale, such as for non-alcoholic brews, or
> for Coors Light.
> U+1F37B could be used to denote two beers of the same style, but for
> beers of different colors, the mechanism described in UTR #51, Section
> 2.2.1 ("Multi-Person Groupings"), involving ZWJ, could be utilized. So a
> toast between drinkers of the two beers above could be encoded as
> ๐Ÿบ๐Ÿปโ€๐Ÿบ๐Ÿฝ <1F37A, 1F3FB, 200D, 1F37A, 1F3FD>. Longer sequences
> would also be possible, such as for beer samplers offered in some pubs
> and restaurants.
> I have no idea whether my proposal is more or less serious, or more or
> less likely to be adopted, than the original.
> --
> Doug Ewell | | Thornton, CO ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ
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