Then it should be UTF-8. Learning to do something in a non-Unicode code page and then redoing it for UTF-8 or UTF-16 merely leads to conversion problems, incompatibilities, and other nonsense.
If someone “needs” to not use UTF-16 for whatever reason, then they should use UTF-8. The “advanced” training should be the other non-Unicode code pages.
Teach them right the first time. They’ll never use a code page.
-Shawn
From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-bounces_at_unicode.org] On Behalf Of Asmus Freytag (t)
Sent: January 6, 2016 3:19 PM
To: unicode_at_unicode.org
Subject: Re: Unicode in the Curriculum?
On 1/6/2016 10:59 AM, Shawn Steele wrote:
+1 :)
I'm not going to join the happy chorus here.
The "bunny" slope for most people is their own native language...
A./
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From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-bounces_at_unicode.org] On Behalf Of Ken Whistler
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 7:44 AM
To: Andre Schappo <A.Schappo_at_lboro.ac.uk><mailto:A.Schappo_at_lboro.ac.uk>
Cc: unicode_at_unicode.org<mailto:unicode_at_unicode.org>
Subject: Re: Unicode in the Curriculum?
Actually, ASCII should *not* be ignored or deprecated.
We *love* ASCII. The issue is just making sure that students understand that the *true name* of "ASCII" is "UTF-8". It is just the very first 128 values that open into the entire world of Unicode characters.
It is a mind trick to play on young programmers: when you learn "ASCII", you are just playing on the bunny slope at the UTF-8 ski resort. Slap on your snowboard and practice -- get out there onto the 2-, 3- and 4-byte slopes with the experts!
--Ken
On 1/6/2016 4:09 AM, Andre Schappo wrote:
On 4 Jan 2016, at 16:59, Asmus Freytag (t) wrote:
ASCII shouldn't be taught, perhaps?
I really like the idea of questioning whether or not ASCII should even be taught.
Wherever in a programming curriculum, text processing/transmission/storage/presentation/encoding is taught, then it should be Unicode text.
ASCII, along with, ISO-8859 ISO-2022 GB2312 .etc. should be consigned
to
.and finally, the legacy character sets/encodings...
Maybe ASCII should now be flagged as deprecated
https://twitter.com/andreschappo/status/684706421712228352
André Schappo
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