Re: Plane-2-only string

Hello,

Here's a list of frequently used Han characters for Hakka and Minnan, Chinese dialects.

It contains several EXT-B characters that you can test:

http://bobbytung.github.io/TaigiHakkaIdeograph/ <http://bobbytung.github.io/TaigiHakkaIdeograph/>
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18CUbZ7tsvZ4QbUj3xcfYi9EGqsft4T37WtUMX9v2STQ/pubhtml <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18CUbZ7tsvZ4QbUj3xcfYi9EGqsft4T37WtUMX9v2STQ/pubhtml>

Bobby Tung
W3C invited expert
Editor of CLREQ

> via Unicode <unicode_at_unicode.org> 於 2017年11月14日 下午1:45 寫道：
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> Dear Peter,
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> since the Chinese characters below are meaningless in Chinese using them should not be a first choice, as they are meaningless, so gibberish, just not complete gibberish.
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> Plane 2 has a fair number of older Chinese characters, so someone with a knowledge of ancient Chinese might well be able make something meaningful. Run a competition in China would be one way to get suggestions, spotting a good suggestion is easier than making one.
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> Plane 2 has Cantonese, Vietnamese and Zhuang characters. The number of Cantonese characters is small, so making phrases using only them would be difficult. Both Vietnamese and Zhuang have a much larger number of characters so much easier to make something meaningful.
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> The following Zhuang proverb, or saying
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> 𮤯𫭴𭣀𭒹𣐡𮤯󶒘𩜋𭸘𭡘
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> "Plant sweet potatoes in the field, and raise pigs in the sty."[lit: house, as the bottom floor of tradional house used for livestock and people live in floor above.]
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> However third and eighth characters are not the most common used.
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> Regards
> John
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> On 14.11.2017 06:38, Peter Constable via Unicode wrote:
>> I discussed this with one of my Chinese co-workers, and we came up
>> with the following:
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>> “𠀀𠀁𠀂𠀃𠀄
>> 𦬣𦬤𦬥𦬦𦬧
>> 𦩒𦩓𦩔𦩕𦩖
>> 𨣫𨣬𨣭𨣮𨣯”
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>> Factors in the choice of characters were:
>> - different radicals
>> - for a given radical, have a sequence of consecutive characters so
>> people get the idea it's not a sentence but just a sequence of
>> characters with related meanings
>> - radical groups increase in complexity
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>> It's not a sentence that can be read, but there's an obvious pattern,
>> so it's also not completely gibberish.
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>>
>> Peter
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: James Kass [mailto:jameskasskrv_at_gmail.com]
>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 2:29 PM
>> To: Peter Constable <petercon_at_microsoft.com>
>> Cc: Unicode list <unicode_at_unicode.org>
>> Subject: Re: Plane-2-only string
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>> Peter Constable wrote,
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>>> We don't want to add BMP characters to the ExtB fonts.
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>> So the sample text would lack punctuation. Given that the
>> Supplementary Ideographic Plane is composed of rare and historical
>> characters from multiple sources, I suspect that the short answer to
>> Peter's original question is: "No".
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Received on Tue Nov 14 2017 - 02:04:41 CST