UTC 114 & INCITS Subgroup L2 211 Joint Meeting
Cupertino, CA -- February 4-8, 2008
Hosted by Apple

Meeting Logistical Information
February 8, 2008

UTC South Asian Subcommittee meeting time:

    Monday, February 4            10:30 am - 5:30 pm

UTC Script Subcommittee meeting time:
    Tuesday, February 5            9:30 am to 4:30 pm

UTC Symbols Subcommittee meeting time:

    Tuesday, February 5            4:30 pm to 6:00 pm

UTC Plenary meeting times:
    Wednesday, February 6       9:30 am to 5:30 pm 
    Thursday, February 7           10:00 am to 5:30 pm
    Friday, February 8                9:30 am to 3:00 pm

Unicode Full Members meeting time:
    Thursday, February 7           9:30 am to 10:00 am

L2 Plenary meeting time:
    Friday, February 8               3 pm to 5 pm

Scheduled activities:

Agenda Item


Day and Time (PST)

Call-in Information
C.12 Revised proposal to encode Old Lisu  Adrian Cheuk
Tuesday, 4 pm
Toll-Free (US & Canada): 866-500-6738
Toll: 203-480-8000
Participant Pass code: 741167
E.2 Malayalam
Muller, Johny
Thursday, 2 pm
same as above
B.13.4 Request to document glyph variants
Lorna Priest
Friday, 9:30 am
same as above

Ad  Hoc Meeting Rooms:

Ad Hoc Subject Person Day and Time (PST) Location Call-in Information
South Asia  ad hoc
Tuesday, 8:30 to 9:30 am
same as above
C.0 Tai Tham
McGowan, Constable
Wednesday, lunch
same as above
C.20 Avestan Separation Point
McGowan, Anderson
Wednesday, lunch
same as above
Symbols ad hoc
Wednesday, 9 to 9:30 am
same as above
Script ad hoc
Thursday, lunch
same as above
Script ad hoc
Friday, lunch

Related meetings:



Day and Time (PST)

Location Call-in Information

TC Procedures posted at: http://www.unicode.org/consortium/tc-procedures.html

A. Administrative Issues

A.1 UTC membership roll call
  A.1.1 Call for proxies
  A.1.2 Roll call

A.2 Declaration of joint meeting

A.3 Registration of new documents

A.4 Approval of joint meeting agenda
  Latest version of this document [L2/08-002]

A.5 Minutes and action items
  A.5.1 Review of minutes
    A.5.1.1 Joint Meeting UTC 113/L2 210  [L2/07-345]
  A.5.2  Action Items
    A.5.2.1 Review of open action items [L2/SD2, L2/08-074]
    A.5.2.2 Recently closed action items [L2/08-048]
  Minutes publicly posted at http://www.unicode.org/unicode/consortium/utc-minutes.html

A.6 Calendar review
  UTC 115/L2 212 - May 12-16, 2008, San Jose, host, Adobe
  UTC 116/L2 213 - August 11-15, 2008, Redmond, host, Microsoft
  UTC 117/L2 214 - November 3-7, 2008, Mountain View, host, Google  Annual Members Mtg
  UTC 118/L2 215 - February 2-6, 2009, Mountain View, host Unicode, Members Mtg

  Calendar posted at http://www.unicode.org/unicode/timesens/calendar.html

A.7 Letter ballot review

A.8 Schedule ad hoc meetings

A.9 Membership update

B. Liaison Reports and Technical Topics

B.1  WG2
  B.1.1 Convenor's report [Ksar]
  B.1.2 Liaison report [Constable]
  B.1.3 WG2 action items [Umamaheswaran]
  B.1.4 Amendments/Ballots
    B.1.4.1 Amendment 3
      B. Summary of voting for FDAM3 of ISO/IEC 10646:2003 (WG2 N3991) [SC2, L2/08-009]
    B.1.4.2 Amendment 4
      B.  FDAM text for Amendment 4 (WG2 N3982) [SC2, L2/08-070]
    B.1.4.3 Amendment 5
      B.  FPDAM text for Amendment 5 (WG2 N3982) [SC2, L2/08-010]
    B.1.4.4 Amendment 6
      B. PDAM text for Amendment 6 (WG2 N3989) [SC2, L2/08-008]
  B.1.5 Consent docket [Whistler]
  B.1.6 WG2 minutes and resolutions [Umamaheswaran]
    B.1.6.1 Resolutions of WG2 meeting 51 (WG2 N3354R) [WG2, L2/07-323]
    B.1.6.2 Unconfirmed minutes of WG2 meeting 51 (WG2 N3353) [WG2 L2/07-381]

B.2 SC2/SC22/SC34/SC35/SC36/TC37/SC29
  B.2.1 Liaison report [Ksar]
  B.2.2 JTC/SC documents
    B.2.2.1 Logistical Information for the Meetings of SC 2 Plenary, WG 2 and OWGSORT [SC2, L2/08-013]
    B.2.2.2 Preliminary agenda for seventh meeting of OWGSORT [SC2, L2/08-031]
    B.2.2.3 Liaison statement from SC 34 to SC 2 regarding ISO/IEC FCD 19757-7, Information technology -- Document Schema Definition Languages (DSDL) -- Part 7: Character Repertoire Description Language (CRDL) [SC34, L2/08-032]
    B.2.2.4 Text and letter ballot for FCD 15897 - Procedures for registration of cultural elements [SC35, L2/08-033]

  B.3.1 Liaison report [Jenkins, L2/07-407]
  B.3.2 Resolutions of IRG Meeting #29 [IRG, L2/07-408]
  B.3.3 Notes of discussion at plenary session [IRG,  L2/08-016]

  B.4.1 Liaison report [Ksar]

  B.5.1 Liaison report [McGowan]
  B.5.2 IDNA
    B.5.2.1 Notes on IDN Meeting [Davis, L2/08-099]
    B.5.2.2 IDNAbis Preprocessing Draft [Davis, L2/08-100]

B.6 W3C
  B.6.1 Liaison report [Davis]
  B.6.2 MathML liaison report [Sargent]  

B.7 UC Berkeley Department of Linguistics - Script Encoding Initiative
  B.7.1 Liaison report [Anderson, L2/08-046]

B.8 ILCAA (Institute for Languages and Cultures of Asia and Africa)  

  B.9.1 Liaison report [Kaplan]

  B.10.1 Liaison report [Davis]

B.11 Public Review Issues
  B.11.1  Issue 102: Review of Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #15: Unicode Normalization Forms
    B.11.1.1 Feedback
      B. General feedback [L2/08-075]
      B. Time to freeze NFC and canonical equivalency [Cowan, L2/08-021]
      B. Stabilized strings [Davis, Klensin, L2/08-028]
   B.11.1.2 Document for review [Davis, Dürst, L2/08-059]
  B.11.2 Issue 103: Review of Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #29: Text Boundaries
    B.11.2.1 Feedback
      B. General feedback [L2/08-075]
      B. UAX #29 Sentence Break SContinue characters [Edberg, L2/08-029]
        B. Feedback [L2/08-075]
     B. Update Conformance Clauses for Definition of ECCS (see also L2/07-389) [Whistler, L2/08-047]
     B. Comments from W3C I18N review of UAX #29 [Ishida, L2/08-072]
     B. UAX 29 Unicode 5.1 (draft 5) Feedback [Heninger, L2/08-083]
    B.11.2.2 Document for review [Davis, L2/08-061]
  B.11.3 Issue 104: Review of Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #31: Identifier and Pattern Syntax
    B.11.3.1 Feedback
      B. General feedback [L2/08-075]
      B. Pattern_Syntax in UAX31 [Davis, L2/08-108]
    B.11.3.2 Document for review [Davis, L2/08-062]
  B.11.4 Issue 105: Review of Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #14: Line Breaking Properties
    B.11.4.1 Feedback
      B. General feedback [L2/08-075]
      B. Line breaking and SE Asia [Hosken, L2/08-022]
        B. Response [Freytag, L2/08-023]
      B. Regression in UAX #14, Line Breaking Properties [Muller, L2/08-095]
      B. Feedback on line break test [Heninger, L2/08-082]
      B. Attachment for L2/08-082 and L2/08-083 [Heninger, L2/08-090]
        B. UAX 14 behavior of U+3002 IDEOGRAPHIC FULL STOP [Freytag, L2/08-089]
      B. Further comments [Henninger, L2/08-112, L2/08-113]
    B.11.4.2 Document for review [Heninger, L2/08-058]
  B.11.5 Issue 109: Review of Proposed Draft Unicode Technical Report #42: An XML Representation of the UCD
B.11.5.1 Feedback
      B. General feedback [L2/08-075]
      B. Comments on UAX #42 (tr42-2.html) [Sasaki, L2/08-093]
      B. Feedback on UAX #42 [Cowan, L2/08-094]
    B.11.5.2 Document for review [Muller, L2/08-066]
  B.11.6 Issue 110: Review of Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #24: Script Names
    B.11.6.1 Feedback
      B. General feedback [L2/08-075]
    B.11.6.2 Document for review [Davis, Whistler, L2/08-060]
  B.11.7 Issue 111: Review of Proposed Update Unicode Technical Standard #18: Unicode Regular Expressions
    B.11.7.1 Feedback
      B. General feedback [L2/08-075]
      B. Recommended regex changes [Davis, L2/08-114
    B.11.7.2 Document for review [Davis, Heninger, L2/07-364]
  B.11.8 Issue 112: Review of Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #9: Unicode Bidirectional Algorithm
    B.11.8.1 Feedback
      B. General feedback [L2/08-075]
    B.11.8.2 Document for review [Davis, L2/08-056]
  B.11.9 Issue 113: Review of Proposed Update Unicode Technical Standard #10: Unicode Collation Algorithm
    B.11.9.1 Feedback
      B. General feedback [L2/08-075]
    B.11.9.2 Document for review [Davis, Whistler, L2/07-366]
  B.11.10 Issue 114: Review of Proposed Update Unicode Standard Annex #34: Unicode Named Character Sequences
    B.11.10.1 Feedback
      B. General feedback [L2/08-075]
    B.11.10.2 Document for review [Whistler, L2/08-063]
  B.11.11 Issue 115: Review of Proposed Update Unicode Technical Report #36: Unicode Security Considerations
B.11.11.1 Feedback
      B. General feedback [L2/08-075]
    B.11.11.2 Document for review [Davis]
  B.11.12 Issue 117: Review of  Draft Unicode Standard Annex #38: A User's Guide to the Unihan Database
    B.11.12.1 Feedback
      B. General feedback [L2/08-075]
    B.11.12.2 Document for review [Jenkins, Cook, L2/08-064]
  B.11.13 Issue 118:  Review of  Proposed Draft Unicode Standard Annex #44: Unicode Character Database
    B.11.13.1 Feedback
      B. General feedback [L2/08-075]
    B.11.13.2 Document for review [Davis, Whistler, L2/08-067]
  B.11.14 Comments on closed PRIs
    B.11.14.1 Comments on PRI 108: combined registration of the Adobe-Japan 1 collection and of sequences in that collection [Sekiguchi, L2/07-411]

B.12 Unicode Technical Reports, Standards, and Standard Annexes
  B.12.1 Working Draft Proposed Update Unicode Technical Report #25: Unicode Support for Mathematics
    B.12.1.1 Document for review [Sargent, L2/08-107]
  B.12.2 Status and future maintenance of Draft Unicode Technical Standard #30: Character Foldings [100-A68]

B.13 Editorial Committee
  B.13.1 Errata
  B.13.2 Editorial Committee report [Whistler]
  B.13.3 Unicode 5.1
    B.13.3.1 Review beta feedback [L2/08-075]
      B. ISO Comments in Unicode 5.1.0 Data Files  [West, L2/08-091]
    B.13.3.2 Authorize release of Unicode 5.1
  B.13.4 Request to document glyph variants [Priest, L2/08-034]
    B.13.4.1 Feedback [L2/08-075]
  B.13.5 Proposal for handling rejected and under investigation status [Whistler, L2/08-045]
  B.13.6 Earlier public review of character encoding decisions

B.14 Properties
  B.14.1 Review property values for newly approved scripts and characters
  B.14.2  Deprecated characters [Davis, L2/08-018]
  B.14.3 Case gotchas [Davis, L2/08-026]
  B.14.4 Default ignorables [Davis, L2/08-027]
  B.14.5 Additional property value aliases [Davis, L2/07-405]
  B.14.6 Egyptological Yod and Cyrillic breathings (WG2 N3382) [Everson, Richmond, L2/08-049]
    B.14.6.1 Comments on L2/08-049 [Anderson, Mastronarde, L2/08-087]

B.15 Reports from Subcommittees
  B.15.1 Script Subcommittee [McGowan, L2/08-111]
  B.15.2 South Asian Script Subcommittee 
    B.15.2.1 South Asia Chennai meeting
      B. South Asia Chennai meeting report [Davis, L2/08-085]
      B. Tamil issues [Davis, L2/08-078]
      B. Report on the Final Recommendations of the Task Force on TACE16 [Ponnavaikko, L2/08-101]
      B. Attendees of the South Asia Subcommittee Meeting at Chennai[Ponnavaikko, L2/08-102]
      B. Official remarks from Dr.C.Chandramouli, Secretary to the Government, IT Dept, Gov't of Tamil Nadu [Ponnavaikko, L2/08-103]
      B. On the Crisis of Tamil Computing Encoding [Ponnavaikko, L2/08-104]
    B.15.2.2 UTC 114 Subcommittee meeting report [Muller, L2/08-110]
  B.15.3 Symbols Subcommittee [Scherer]

B.16 Stability Policies
  B.16.1 Normalization and casing stability [Davis, L2/08-079]

B.17 Security issue in C7 [Davis, L2/07-415]

B.18 CJK
  B.18.1 Splitting Up Unihan.txt [Jenkins, L2/08-051]
  B.18.2 Unihan frequency data derived from Wikipedia [Jenkins, L2/08-052]
  B.18.3 Proposed Draft Unicode Technical Report - U-Source Ideographs [Jenkins, L2/08-053]
  B.18.4 U-Source Ideographs [Jenkins, L2/08-054]
  B.18.5 USourceIdeographs.txt (data file) [Jenkins, L2/08-055]
  B.18.6 IVD Update and incorporation in Unicode and in ISO/IEC 10646 [Muller, L2/08-109]

C. Script Subcommittee

C.0 Review of script documents requested by WG2
  C.0.1 Tai Tham
  C.0.1.1 Tai Tham ad-hoc meeting report (WG2 N3379) [Constable, L2/08-037]  
  C.0.1.2 Tai Tham subjoined variants [Hosken, L2/08-073]

C.1 Inclusion of archaic Sinhala numerals in the Sinhala character code range [Sri Lanka NB, L2/08-007, L2/08-068, L2/08-105]
C.2 Proposal to encode the Livre Tournois sign [Sewell, L2/07-332]

C.3  Old South Arabian
  C.3.1 Proposal to encode Old South Arabian script [SEI/Mansour, et al, L2/08-044]
  C.3.2 Relevant earlier documents [L2/07-240, L2/07-287, L2/98-036]

  C.3.3 Public review feedback [L2/08-075]
C.4 Proposal to encode the Mandaic script [Everson, L2/07-412]
C.5 Proposal to encode Oriya Fraction Signs [Pandey, L2/07-413]

  C.5.1 Feedback [L2/08-075]
C.6 Proposal to encode Siyaq Numerals [Pandey, L2/07-414]

C.7 Proposal to encode the Kaithi script [Pandey, L2/07-418]

C.8 Proposal to encode the Takri script [Pandey, L2/07-419]
C.9 Brahmi
  C.9.1 Proposal to encode Brahmi [Glass, Baums, L2/07-342]
  C.9.2 Scripts on roadmap covered by Brahmi encoding [Glass, Baums, L2/07-406]
C.10 Proposal to encode Sharada [SEI/Pandey, L2/08-017]
C.11 Proposal to encode the Batak script [SEI/Everson, L2/08-011]
C.12  Old Lisu
  C.12.1 Revised proposal to encode Old Lisu (replaces L2/07-344) [China NB, L2/08-019]

  C.12.2 Documentation on legacy encodings of the Old Lisu script [China NB, L2/07-423]
C.13 Proposal to encode Samaritan [SEI/Everson, L2/08-024]
C.14 Proposal to encode Manichaean [SEI/Everson, L2/08-025]
C.15 Proposal to encode the character “subscript ten” [Broukhis, L2/08-030]

  C.15.1 Feedback [L2/08-075]
C.16 Old Turkic
  C.16.1 Proposal to encode the Old Turkic script [China, UK, Ireland, NBs, SEI, L2/07-325R]
  C.16.2 Proposal to encode the Old Turkic script (N3357R2, replaces L2/07-325R) [SEI/Everson, L2/08-071]

C.17 Proposal to encode two Kana characters concerning YE [Kato, L2/07-421]

C.18 Preliminary collection of alchemical symbols [Kass, L2/07-422]
C.19 Proposal to encode alternative New Tai Lue digit 1 (WG2 N3380) [Hosken, L2/08-036]
C.20 Comments on the Avestan Separation Point (WG2 N3336) [Anderson, L2/07-304, L2/08-088]

C.21 Proposal for encoding the Javanese script (WG2 N3319R2, replaces L2/07-295R) [SEI/Everson, L2/08-015]
C.22 Proposal to add nine multi-letter Jamo characters [Karlsson, L2/08-084, L2/08-075]
C.23 Rumi
  C.23.1 Proposal to encode Rumi numeral symbols (replaces  L2/-06-126) [Lazrek, L2/06-291]
  C.23.2 Character and line-breaking properties for Rumi numeral symbols [Lazrek, L2/07-235]

D. Symbols Subcommittee

D.1 Emoji
  D.1.1 Working draft proposal for encoding emoji symbols [Momoi, Davis, Scherer, L2/08-081]
  D.1.2 Emoji proposal data
[Momoi, Davis, Scherer, L2/08-080R]
  D.1.3 Feedback on the updated emoji encoding proposal [Momoi, Scherer, L2/08-106]
D.2 Japanese TV symbols [Suignard, L2/08-077]

E. South Asian Subcommittee

E.1 Vedic

  E.1.1 Vedic Revisions 2008 Jan 14 [Scharf, L2/08-035]

  E.1.2 Revised Proposal for Vaidika [India, MIT, L2/08-042]]
  E.1.3 Proposal for Vaidika - Evidences [India, MIT, L2/08-043]
  E.1.4 Summary proposal to encode characters for Vedic (WG2 N3383) [Everson, Scharf, L2/08-050]
  E.1.5 Comparison between two Vedic proposals of January 2008 [Everson, Scharf, L2/08-092]
  E.1.6 Comparison of L2/08-042 and L2/08-050 [Joshi, L2/08-096]
  E.1.7 Amendments to L2/08-042, L2/08-043 [India, MIT, L2/08-097]
  E.1.8 Explanation on A8FE Vaidika Prarambha Chihna and A8FF Vaidika Antha Chihna [Joshi, L2/08-098]

E.2  Malayalam
  E.2.1 Comparison of Dot-Reph proposals in 5.1 [Johny, Nair, L2/08-020]
  E.2.2 Atomic chillu's are unacceptable [Thottingal, L2/08-038]
  E.2.3 Malayalam script - adoption of new script for use [Gov't of Kerala, L2/08-039]
  E.2.4 Malayalam Chillus in grapheme clusters (comments on L2/07-402) [Ganesan, L2/08-040]
  E.2.5 Malayalam Reph with ZWJ [Ganesan, L2/08-041]
  E.2.6 Comments on Malayalam text in Unicode 5.1 [Sulochana, L2/08-069]
  E.2.7 Malayalam alveolar n (NNNA = U+0D29) (N3295) [Ganesan, L2/07-283]
  E.2.8 Proposal to add three characters for Malayalam [Everson, L2/07-283]
  E.2.9 Malayalam Feedback from the Online Reporting Form [L2/08-076]

E.3 Dandas
  E.3.1 Script-specific Dandas [WG2, L2/07-323]
  E.3.2 Danda guidelines draft [US NB, L2/08-086]

F. Miscellaneous


G. Close of Joint Meeting

G.1 Review of UTC motions (recommendations to L2) [L2/08-004]

G.2 UTC position on current ballots [Muller]

G.3 Closing of joint meeting