Re: Persian letters Kaf and Heh with Yeh above

From: Michael \(michka\) Kaplan (
Date: Wed May 09 2001 - 05:36:39 EDT

This is probably better directed to Microsoft then to the Unicode List
(since its really not a Unicode issue but it is obviously a Microsoft one!)
but there are plenty of MS people who can take the ball and run with it.

For fonts, neither Times New Roman nor Tahoma is all that stellar for
Persian. Some people think well of Microsoft Sans Serif (*not* MS Sans
Serif, which is not the same font, at all!). As for collation, it really is
the fact that there is not a specific Farsi collation currently supported by
Windows; it is not due to specific bugs though obviously they could make
things worse. Presuably if/when collation support for Farsi (LCID 0x0429 or
1065 decimal) is added, these issues will be fixed at the same time as part
of the natural "shaking out" of a tested, supported collation.


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Vladimir Ivanov" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 12:53 AM
Subject: Persian letters Kaf and Heh with Yeh above

Persian letter Kaf 06A9 (entered from Persian keyboard in Word 2000 or Word
XP under Windows 2000 or Whistler Beta 2 Build 2462) seems to be handled
like a delimiter. If you try to select the whole word KETA:B (see
Attachment, Line 1) by double clicking, only last three letters could be
checked. It may also be the reason for incorrect dictionary sorting of such
In Windows 2000 there was no built in method to enter Heh with Yeh above
06C0 in Persian texts. Now, thanks to Whistler, you can do that by pressing
Shift+G. Unfortunately:
1) It substituted the method for entering diacritic Sukun 0652, so that you
can no longer enter it from Persian keyboard. It is a minor inconvenience
because Sukun is used in Persian rather rarely to eliminate ambiguity and it
can be entered with a self-made shortcut key.
2) Times New Roman font has no such symbol. Entering Heh with Yeh above 06C0
automatically switches the font to Tahoma. So, if you don't pay any
attention, the rest of your text will be in Tahoma (see Lines 2 and 3).
3) Heh with Yeh above 06C0 is not linked to the preceding letter (see Line

Thank you, Vladimir Ivanov,

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