RE: Missing African Latin letters

From: Philippe Verdy (verdy_p@wanadoo.fr)
Date: Sat Dec 06 2003 - 00:12:34 EST

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    Michael Everson wrote:
    > Philippe Verdy wrote:
    > > Some letters used in Latin transcription of Pan-Sahelian scripts
    > > are still missing in Unicode:
    > > Is there a proposal to include them, as they are needed for case
    > > folding and capital transcription?
    > > I can identify immediately these two ones that would be needed on
    > > Pan-Sahelian keyboards:
    > >
    > >U+027E LATIN SMALL LETTER R WITH FISHHOOK
    > >U+???? LATIN CAPITAL LETTER R WITH FISHHOOK
    > >
    > >U+0266 LATIN SMALL LETTER H WITH HOOK
    > >U+???? LATIN CAPITAL LETTER H WITH HOOK
    >
    > Looking at the International Niamey keyboard layout given at
    >
    http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&item_id=IntlNiameyK
    ybd
    > it can be observed that, of the set of letters used, four of them do
    > not have capital forms:
    >
    > U+0266 LATIN SMALL LETTER H WITH HOOK
    > U+027E LATIN SMALL LETTER R WITH FISHHOOK

    I gave these two ones in my message.

    > U+0251 LATIN SMALL LETTER ALPHA

    (Note that the Big Alpha has a glyph often made distinct from an uppercase
    A, using a rounded top instead of the angular shape, but some writers seem
    to add a turned breve (or a breve or another diacritic) above a standard A,
    to make it appear as Alpha and not A. Sometimes the "alpha" is marked with a
    AE or ae letter (I think it comes from limited character sets, where AE was
    present but there was no possible distinction for the Latin letter Alpha). I
    don't know the language in which it is written, so I can't say if they are a
    fallback convention for printing or a separate orthographic letter. May be
    an Africanist will reply to this...

    > U+0273 LATIN SMALL LETTER N WITH RETROFLEX HOOK

    I did not list them, but there are other missing capital letters:
    (outside of glottal stops which do not seem to have case
    variation, although it may be possible that this is rendred
    in some African texts for titles):

    01AA;LATIN LETTER REVERSED ESH LOOP;Ll;0;L;;;;;N;;<??>;;<??>;
    <??>;LATIN CAPITAL REVERSED ESH LOOP;Lu;0;L;;;;;N;;;01AA;;

    01BA;LATIN SMALL LETTER ESH WITH TAIL;Ll;0;L;;;;;N;;<??>;;<??>;
    <??>;LATIN CAPITAL LETTER ESH WITH TAIL;Lu;0;L;;;;;N;;;01BA;;

    0271;LATIN SMALL LETTER M WITH HOOK;Ll;0;L;;;;;N;LATIN SMALL LETTER M
    HOOK;<??>;;<??>;
    <??>;LATIN CAPITAL LETTER M WITH HOOK;Lu;0;L;;;;;N;;;0271;;

    0289;LATIN SMALL LETTER U BAR;Ll;0;L;;;;;N;;<??>;;<??>;
    <??>;LATIN CAPITAL LETTER U BAR;Lu;O;L;;;;;N;;;0289;;

    028C;LATIN SMALL LETTER TURNED V;Ll;0;L;;;;;N;;<??>;;<??>;
    <??>;LATIN CAPITAL LETTER TURNED V;Lu;0;L;;;;;N;;;028C;;

    On the opposite, there seems also to exist x-height bilabial click (i.e. a
    lowercase version, the encoded one being probably uppercase/noncased)...

    0298;LATIN LETTER BILABIAL CLICK;<???Lu???>;0;L;;;;;N;LATIN LETTER
    BULLSEYE;;<??>;;
    <??>;LATIN SMALL LETTER BILABIAL CLICK;Ll;0;L;;;;;N;;0298;;0298;

    And of course there are the three missing letters:

    U+???? LATIN SMALL LETTER R BAR
    U+???? LATIN CAPITAL LETTER R BAR

    U+???? LATIN SMALL LETTER W WITH HOOK
    U+???? LATIN CAPITAL LETTER W WITH HOOK

    U+???? LATIN SMALL LETTER KHI (or X WITH HOOK?)
    U+???? LATIN CAPITAL LETTER KHI (or X WITH HOOK?)

    And did not check all the letter variants composed with lower dots rather
    than hooks and bars, but this second set seems complete.

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