Re: Œœ on IBM AIX

From: Ankit Jain (mr.ankit@gmail.com)
Date: Wed May 23 2007 - 00:36:24 CDT

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    Hi
    please find my settings and then guide me where i am wrong
    SQL> select * from V$NLS_PARAMETERS
    PARAMETER
    VALUE
    ----------------------------------------------------------------
    ----------------------------------------------------------------

    NLS_LANGUAGE
    AMERICAN
    NLS_TERRITORY
    AMERICA
    NLS_CURRENCY
    $
    NLS_ISO_CURRENCY
    AMERICA
    NLS_NUMERIC_CHARACTERS
         .,
    NLS_CALENDAR
    GREGORIAN
    NLS_DATE_FORMAT
    DD-MON-RR
    NLS_DATE_LANGUAGE
    AMERICAN
    NLS_CHARACTERSET
    WE8MSWIN1252
    NLS_SORT
    BINARY
    NLS_TIME_FORMAT
    HH.MI.SSXFFAM
    NLS_TIMESTAMP_FORMAT
    DD-MON-RR HH.MI.SSXFFAM
    NLS_TIME_TZ_FORMAT
    HH.MI.SSXFF AM
    TZR
    NLS_TIMESTAMP_TZ_FORMAT
    DD-MON-RR HH.MI.SSXFF AM
    TZR
    NLS_DUAL_CURRENCY
    $
    NLS_NCHAR_CHARACTERSET
    AL16UTF16
    NLS_COMP
    BINARY
    NLS_LENGTH_SEMANTICS
    BYTE
    NLS_NCHAR_CONV_EXCP
    FALSE

    19 rows selected.

    NLS_LANG is not set on AIX machine (client machine-Oracle 9.2.0.1)
    LANG parameter earlier was en_US for all

    i tried setting NLS_LANG=AMERICAN_AMERICA.WE8ISO8859P15 on both oracle user
    and myapp user
    now i set (for oracle user , myapp user) it to en_US.8859-15

    Even then no success
    Regards, Ankit

    On 5/10/07, Addison Phillips <addison@yahoo-inc.com> wrote:
    >
    > One of the locales Ankit lists is:
    >
    > en_US.8859-15
    >
    > Any of the 8859-15 locales should be able to display the character, but
    > that is only part of the problem.
    >
    > It is important to ensure that the character in question can survive the
    > whole round trip to and from the database. The terminal display locale
    > is only a small part of this.
    >
    > First, check the encoding used by the Oracle database:
    >
    > SELECT * FROM V$NLS_PARAMETERS;
    >
    > Look for NLS_CHARACTERSET in the results. And then look at the
    > connection character encoding used by the client (usually part of the
    > NLS_LANG environment variable, such as "AMERICAN_AMERICA.WE8ISO8859P15").
    >
    > These all need to be compatible. For example, if your database uses the
    > encoding AL32UTF8 (that is, UTF-8), then the database can store the
    > characters you want---encoded as UTF-8. If your connection encoding is
    > WE8ISO8859P15 (that is, ISO 8859-15), then you will get bytes consistent
    > with that encoding in your queries---the database converts them to/from
    > UTF-8 for storage using the specified encoding. It is very likely that
    > your connection encoding is set to ISO 8859-1, though, and this is
    > possible source of your woes (otherwise, instead of inverted question
    > mark, you'd see random garbage bytes until you set your locale to use
    > 8859-15).
    >
    > Oracle does conversions to match the client character set. If you choose
    > "WE8ISO8859P1" as the encoding, the oe liguature character will be
    > converted to the substitution character, regardless of the locale you
    > set. So be sure you set all of your settings (locale, NLS_LANG, database
    > encoding) to match or at least support the characters you need.
    >
    > Note that there is no requirement to use a French or France-specific
    > locale to do this. Those locales are necessary only if you want French
    > behavior such as date formats, number formats, sorting, and so forth.
    > For character display all you need is the correct character encoding.
    >
    > Best Regards,
    >
    > Addison
    >
    > ====
    >
    > For further reading, check out the Oracle Globalization Guide,
    > especially Chapter 3:
    >
    > http://tinyurl.com/kwyql
    >
    > You might also find this configuration guide to be of some small use:
    >
    > http://www.inter-locale.com/whitepaper/learn/learn_to_type.html
    >
    > --
    > Addison Phillips
    > Globalization Architect -- Yahoo! Inc.
    >
    > Internationalization is an architecture.
    > It is not a feature.
    >
    > Philippe Verdy wrote:
    > > I see that you are trying to store exactly the list of non ASCII letters
    > > needed for writing French, but your system does not list support for any
    > > French locale, only English US and default POSIX…
    > >
    > > Second: œ and Œ are not in any of the encodings supported in the lists
    > > of locales.
    > >
    > > Yes they are not in ISO 8859-1 (only in ISO 8859-15 which made a
    > > fewchanges for the Euro, and for French) but in Windows-1252 (the
    > > Windows "ANSI" codepage for Western European Latin).
    > >
    > > May be this will work if you install the locales for French…
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > >
    > > *De :* unicode-bounce@unicode.org [mailto:unicode-bounce@unicode.org]
    > > *De la part de* Ankit Jain
    > > *Envoyé :* mercredi 9 mai 2007 15:06
    > > *À :* unicode@unicode.org
    > > *Objet :* Œœ on IBM AIX
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Hi All
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > I am using IBM AIX version 5.1, oracle 9.2 client and Oracle 10g server.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > I am passing the following characters: Àà Ââ Ææ Çç Éé Èè Êê Ëë Îî Ïï Œœ
    > > Ôô Ùù Ûû Üü Ÿ ÿ. these characters get stored in the database, but when i
    > > retrieve them, "Œœ " becomes inverted question mark...
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > I checked the locales of the IBM AIX and found the following:
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > C
    > > POSIX
    > > (..)
    > >
    > > en_US
    > > (….)
    > >
    > > en_US@alt.lftkeymap <mailto:en_US@alt.lftkeymap>
    > >
    > >
    > > One can see that there is not UTF-8 locale here.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > I suppose that "Œœ" character can be viewed using UTF-8 encoding.
    > >
    > > if that supposition is right, then how to install UTF-8 locale here or
    > > if i am wrong, how to retrieve them
    > >
    >
    >

    -- 
    Regards/ Ankit
    


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