RE: Addition of remaining two Maltese Characters to Unicode

Date: Tue Aug 01 2000 - 01:41:42 EDT

> I quote Angelo Dalli:
>>>are also problems in distinguishing between the Maltese 'ie' and the
>>>sequence 'i' + 'e' found in words adopted from English.
> I interpreted this to mean that he wanted to be able to form two
>different constructs using the same letters, e.g. i + e for an English
>word, but i + ZWJ + e for native Maltese words. This would allow proper
>rendering for both types of words, so that, say "piece" wouldn't be
>with the "i" and "e" joined. Did I misunderstand?

Angelo mentioned a need to distinguish "ie" in Maltese from "ie" in English
borrowings, but didn't mention much about differences in behaviours - he
only mentioned casing as a particular problem (though I don't see how the
casing works any differently for a single grapheme <ie> than it does for a
grapheme sequence <i><e>).

Angelo: for Maltese words vs. English borrowings in Maltese text, should
there be differences in sorting? in rendering (e.g. ligated "ie" or "gh")?

I mentioned the ZWGJ proposal in my previous message. It's author (Mark
Davis) did update it after UTC #83, and the revised version is available at

If a difference in collation is needed, ZWGJ would meet that need (if it's
accepted). If it's a difference in rendering - specifically ligation -
that's needed, then the (also proposed and pending) ZW LIGATOR (or ZWNL,
both discussed at UTC#82) would be the thing to use (again, if it's
approved) and not the ZWGJ.

- Peter

Peter Constable

Non-Roman Script Initiative, SIL International
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