Re: Is it true that Unicode is insufficient for Oriental languages?

From: John Hudson (
Date: Thu May 22 2003 - 20:38:43 EDT

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    At 03:00 PM 5/22/2003, Jim Allan wrote:

    >And in the same section are a set of Latin Letters in Sans Serif style, a
    >style that first rose to popularity in the early 19th century, and was
    >insultingly named "Gothic" by those who found it *barbaric*.
    >The "Gothic" namestuck and is still used today as part of the name of many
    >Sans-serif fonts, such as Franklin Gothic.
    >Another insulting name given to this type style which stuck and is still
    >used was "Grotesque".

    Grotesque is not necessarily a term of insult. Only recently has it become
    synonymous with gross or disgusting. Grotesque, in addition to being an
    adjective, is also a noun referring to a particular kind of decorative art.
    In this context, grotesque means something closer to a fantasy or fancy,
    usually visual but also literary (I have a friend who is currently teaching
    a university course on the history of the grotesque in European
    literature). When the term first came to be used for sans serif letters in
    the 19th century, it appears to have referred to their novelty and
    unusualness, rather than to ugliness or barbarism. To wit, Southward in his
    dictionary of typography of 1875 defines Grotesque as 'the name of a
    peculiar fancy jobbing type'. We may find it strange, today, to think of
    sans serif types as 'fancy', because we tend to associate fancy with

    James Mosley has written an excellent little monograph on the early history
    of the modern sans serif letter, entitled _The Nymph and the Grot_.

    John Hudson

    Tiro Typeworks
    Vancouver, BC

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