Re: Bangla: [ZWJ], [VIRAMA] and CV sequences

From: Gautam Sengupta (
Date: Fri Oct 17 2003 - 07:27:40 CST

--- Anirban Mitra <> wrote:
> The issues raised by Mr Gautam Sengupta is more of
> theoritical
> nature as unicode encoding for bengali is being used
> for quiet some
> year and some fundamental change he proposes can not
> be done due to
> basic propositions of unicode consortium.

[Gautam]: I agree. We have been through this before.
Pls see earlier postings.

> Mr Gautam, your contention is the new scheme will
> be user
> friendly.But I feel character encoding has nothing
> to do with
> user. Because user will not be processing or seeing
> or inputting
> the unicode characters, he will be using graphemes.
> Inscript
> Keyboard which has character equivalent as Keyboard
> keys are used
> by few. A person who as learned typing in mechanical
> typewriter
> will input the word 'ski' as i-matra + upper sa +
> lower ka. People
> like me who are more convervant with ITRANS type of
> phonetic
> keyboard will use s+k+i. Some people will input it
> other way. It
> will be the job of the corrosponding keyboard driver
> to convert
> both to the unicode sequence of U+09b8 U+09cd U+0995
> U+09bf.

[Gautam]: Again, I agree. But we are not discussing
"user friendliness" here. We are discussing *encoding
> He says CV compositions should be encoded as
> consonant+implicit_virama+vowel and vowel marks
> should be done away
> with. But in when I learnt to write Bengali, I was
> taught the word
> 'kaki' (meaning aunt) should be written as 'ka-e
> aakaar ka-e
> hrasa-i kaar'. I would want to input things in
> computer in the same
> way which I can do with the present system.

[Gautam]: With a properly configured keyboard you
could keep inputting things the way you want
irrespective of whether we revised the encoding scheme
or left it as it is. See your own statement in
paragraph 2 of your message. Best, Gautam.

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