From: Mark Davis (mark.davis@jtcsv.com)
Date: Mon Jul 12 2004 - 20:12:21 CDT
Checking the DIN 5007, it indeed says that letters with diacritics are
sorted with the same primary weight (Section 5.1.1.3) and explicitly lists
in 6.2.3.1.1 "overstrikes" as being diacritics, and gives Å as an example of
that.
‎Mark
----- Original Message -----
From: "Markus Scherer" <markus.scherer@jtcsv.com>
To: "unicode" <unicode@unicode.org>
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 16:13
Subject: Re: Changing UCA primary weights (bad idea)
> Mark Davis wrote:
> > So the question is whether Sybase tailorings, such as German, will be
> > affected positively or negatively, and to what degree. If a German
customer
> > is accessing a database full of European names, and expects to find Ę
with
> > E, and Ä„ with A and Å» with Z and Å with L, then he will be right
*except*
> > for the last one.
>
> I am quite sure that DIN 5007 (the German collation standard) specifies an
ordering like what John &
> Mark have proposed - for primary weights, strip accents etc. While it is
still hard to implement
> something _completely_ conformant to DIN 5007 (try numeric sorting of
roman numbers), it would be
> nice to get a bit closer.
>
> [I am still looking for my copy of DIN 5007. Insert complaint about such
standards not being online.]
>
> Also, intuitively and personally, I would much prefer if ø and ö and such
were all "interleaved"
> with o, for the reasons several repliers stated.
>
> I don't see eng and other such letters in John's list, by the way, which
should ease Michael's
> concern about interleaving eng with e.
>
> As for sorting IPA, I think it's a non-issue for most of its users because
they will see IPA in
> dictionaries which are sorted for the language, not for the pronunciation.
>
> Best regards,
> markus
>
> --
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otherwise noted.
>
>
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