Re: How to write Armenian ligatures?

From: James Kass (
Date: Sat Nov 24 2007 - 10:10:06 CST

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    David Starner wrote,

    > And why wouldn't we want to discard ligature information from plain
    > text? It's way down the list of things I'd want to preserve in a
    > text, far after italics, bold, page breaks, page size, font size, etc.

    As they say, different strokes for dif‍ferent folks.

    > The only reason to preserve I can see is a digital facsimile, which is
    > not a plain text application. In a new text, carefully typeset, one
    > may want to go through and selectively add or subtract ligatures, but
    > that's hardly plain text either.

    People generate PDFs from plain text and also from HTML. If I were
    using HTML for the purpose of reproducing a page from a two hundred
    year old book, I would want to preserve the ligature information. As
    something of a purist, I would want my reproduction to have ligatures
    where the original had ligatures, and not have ligatures where the
    original hadn't any. If left to the whims of some kind of automatic
    ligature formation, I would have to go through the text inserting ZWNJs
    anywhere I thought that an unwanted ligature might form.

    Of course, I understand that opinions and expectations differ. People
    should be able to choose applications and methods which serve their
    needs best. It depends on the level of granularity wanted. For example,
    many people would be happy to plain textually reproduce the title on the
    cover of the latest Unicode book as: "The Unicode Standard 5.0". The next
    person might take it a step further: "THE Unicode STANDARD 5.0".

    But, neither of those is as accurate as I would want. I'd have to enter
    "THE Unıcode STANDARD 5.0". Any of the three choices are legible in
    plain text and there are no real semantic differences in the eye and
    mind of the beholder.

    Many people probably wouldn't use Latin ligatures in plain text. But it's
    nice to have the option.

    Bes‍t regards,

    James Kass

    P.S. - To keep this on-subject, the same goes for Armenian ligatures.

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