From: Kenneth Whistler (email@example.com)
Date: Wed Jan 16 2008 - 15:11:42 CST
> > You can find it here:
> No, all I can find is lower case j with caron.
> I would like to see a scan of an example of a correctly rendered
> uppercase J with caron in context.
> > http://transliteration.eki.ee/pdf/Macedonian.pdf
> > http://transliteration.eki.ee/pdf/Serbian.pdf
It is true that neither of those pages show the uppercase
in context, but then they don't show *any* uppercase
for the transliterations. But if you actually look at:
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_9
> > Transliteration system from ISO 9.
you'll see that ISO 9 specifies both lowercase and
uppercase for all specified transliterations into
Latin, presuming that uppercase letters in Cyrillic
would be transliterated using uppercase Latin letters
in the transliteration system.
And the J-hacek glyph shown in the charts of ISO 9 is clearly
the uppercase Latin J with the hacek centered firmly
*above* the J, just like the various circumflexes
used in that system also are.
Furthermore, I second what Adam Twardoch said about
the use of the rightside comma as an alternative
rendering of hacek for capital letters being a local
Czech and Slovak tradition. j-hacek is rather widely
used in the Americanist orthographic systems for
North American languages (and others). See:
And I can assure you that in any such instances where
(which as practiced by linguists tend not to use
casing) start to take on casing conventions based on
English, Spanish or other usage, any j-hacek that is
capitalized would most certainly simply use a capital
J with a hacek above, and would never, ever, ever use
a right corner comma, since the right corner comma
in the Americanist orthographic systems is a completely
different diacritic, indicating ejective release
(or glottal coarticulation, in the case of resonants),
rather than alveopalatal articulation. You can
see the distinction in the chart cited above (although
the rendering isn't very good) -- where you can find
the raised commas in the rows labeled "glottalized"
Somewhat cleaner rendering visible in:
I can't just off the bat find you running text in a
language using j-hacek where the author uses capital
letters, but for darn tootin', when such text shows up,
it won't be displayed with Czech/Slovak conventions
for the hacek.
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