From: Asmus Freytag (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Wed Jan 16 2008 - 15:52:10 CST
On 1/16/2008 1:11 PM, Kenneth Whistler wrote:
> And the J-hacek glyph shown in the charts of ISO 9 is clearly
> the uppercase Latin J with the hacek centered firmly
> *above* the J, just like the various circumflexes
> used in that system also are.
All I see on that page is J followed by a box. ;-)
I don't think that page uses glyphs - it seems to be using characters, or
> Furthermore, I second what Adam Twardoch said about
> the use of the rightside comma as an alternative
> rendering of hacek for capital letters being a local
> Czech and Slovak tradition. j-hacek is rather widely
> used in the Americanist orthographic systems for
> North American languages (and others). See:
> And I can assure you that.. any j-hacek that is
> capitalized would most certainly simply use a capital
> J with a hacek above, and would never, ever, ever use
> a right corner comma, since the right corner comma
> in the Americanist orthographic systems is a completely
> different diacritic, indicating ejective release
> (or glottal coarticulation, in the case of resonants),
> rather than alveopalatal articulation.
That's a nice and definite statement - perhaps you'll suggest this to the
person editing the Unicode chapter on combining marks :-)
Seriously, improving the delineation of hacek in specific from caron in
general is worthwhile.
> You can
> see the distinction in the chart cited above (although
> the rendering isn't very good) -- where you can find
> the raised commas in the rows labeled "glottalized"
> or "ejective".
> Somewhat cleaner rendering visible in:
Can't access the domain for some reason. Too bad.
> I can't just off the bat find you running text in a
> language using j-hacek where the author uses capital
> letters, but for darn tootin', when such text shows up,
> it won't be displayed with Czech/Slovak conventions
> for the hacek.
So you say. ;-)
(Actually, I do believe you, but I couldn't resist...).
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