From: Kenneth Whistler (email@example.com)
Date: Wed Jan 16 2008 - 16:42:48 CST
> On 1/16/2008 1:11 PM, Kenneth Whistler wrote:
> > Asmus,
> > And the J-hacek glyph shown in the charts of ISO 9 is clearly
> > the uppercase Latin J with the hacek centered firmly
> > *above* the J, just like the various circumflexes
> > used in that system also are.
> All I see on that page is J followed by a box. ;-)
> I don't think that page uses glyphs - it seems to be using characters, or
> character sequences.
I was not referring to that page, but to an actual, printed,
hard copy of ISO 9 that I was holding in my hands, which
also has columns for elegant hand-written cursive forms
of both the lowercase and uppercase of all the Cyrillic
letters, as well.
> That's a nice and definite statement - perhaps you'll suggest this to the
> person editing the Unicode chapter on combining marks :-)
> Seriously, improving the delineation of hacek in specific from caron in
> general is worthwhile.
Trying to make a distinction between "hacek" and "caron"
is not useful, I think. Note that the Americanist
orthography has always called this a "hacek", too --
not a "caron".
"Caron", as we've investigated
before on this list, is just an obscure, alternate label
invented somewhere early in the annals of character
encoding, for hacek -- perhaps only because proper
spelling of hacek requires a hacek -- which wasn't in
the list of characters used for names. It might be that
*makes up the possible discussion*
Delegate from Slovakia: You can't spell "WITH HACEK" that
way -- it has a hacek on the C.
Convenor from Switzerland: Well, we can only use ASCII A-Z
in character names.
Delegate from Slovakia: Well, it's spelled wrong, and that
isn't acceptable to us.
Convenor from Switzerland (with a straight face):
In Swiss French we call it a "caron",
and there wouldn't be any trouble
Delegate from Slovakia: Really?
Convenor from Switzerland: Yes, so let's just use that term
instead. *aside to editor* Just change
them all to "WITH CARON" and let's move
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