RE: Why people still want to encode precomposed letters

From: Peter Constable (
Date: Sat Nov 22 2008 - 21:29:43 CST

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    How would you suggest anybody do the homework needed to discover that arbitrary & not-well-documented language X uses combining character sequence <Y, Z>? Can you predict who might take an interest in a particular combining mark sequence two years from now?

    Usage of combining marks with Cyrillic is nowhere near as widespread as it is with Latin. I think Vista does pretty well supporting arbitrary combining sequences for Latin in several fonts, as well as certain known-to-be-used sequences for Cyrillic.


    -----Original Message-----
    From: [] On Behalf Of Karl Pentzlin
    Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 9:58 AM
    To: Unicode Mailing List
    Subject: Why people still want to encode precomposed letters

    I am just writing a mail to someone in Russia who suggests to encode a "barred o with macron" which is used in the Orok language.
    Trying to explain to him that the encoding of such letters is not needed, as sequences like U+04E9 U+0304 are appropriate, I have created a little Internet page to prove this:

    I am horrified to see the result, using a computer with the newest version of Microsoft Vista and Internet Explorer (see attached Orok.png). Firefox does not perform better.

    Thus, sequences like U+04E9 U+0304 are NOT appropriate to fulfil the user's needs, as long as leading operating systems behave like this more than 10 years after Unicode has decided no longer to accept precomposed characters.

    Microsoft et al., PLEASE do your homework! Please do it RIGHT NOW!

    - Karl Pentzlin

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