Re: Does OpenOffice 3.0 handle unicode?

From: Julian Bradfield (
Date: Sun Mar 22 2009 - 04:36:55 CST

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    On 2009-03-22, Philippe Verdy <> wrote:
    > In fact, if I read the definition of the term "quite" in English, it has TWO
    > meanings, one of which is strenghtening the meaning (something I was not
    > aware despite it is apparently the most common sense unerstood by some of
    > you here), the other is the complete opposite (and really to want I wanted
    > to say) and is not so much uncommon.

    Indeed. To make it even more confusing, there are considerable
    differences across the Atlantic in the distribution of the two
    meanings. There are many examples such that in English the moderating
    sense would be understood, but in American the strengthening sense
    would be understood.

    In general, your original form "quite a stupid question" would be
    understood in English as moderating (as with "a lion is quite a big
    animal"), but it doesn't really work even in English, for reasons I
    don't quite understand - there are complex semantic and lexical
    interactions, with the result that "quite a stupid question" seems to
    me just unidiomatic. Basically, "stupid" is an inherently 'strong'
    word, so moderating it is somehow incongruent.

    "a quite stupid question", on the other hand, is unambiguously

    You can use "rather" instead, which I think is moderating on both
    sides of the Atlantic.

    Perhaps we need some fancy Unicode punctuation marks?

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