From: verdy_p (email@example.com)
Date: Wed Apr 22 2009 - 19:23:58 CDT
Obviously, important letters for Kazakh Cyrillic are missing, notably KA and ENN with descenders, and GHE with
STROKE (that are generally translitterated to Latin as 'Q/q', 'NG/ng' and 'GH/gh' respectively, using BGN/PCGN
1979, and certainly not just as 'K/k', 'N/n' and 'G/g' with the basic Cyrillic letters). These letters are very
common in Kazakh orthography.
If you use the ISO 8859-5 set or the Windows Cyrillic code page, you'd have to use quirks to render the necessary
distinctions: either writing the descenders with an apostrophe after the normal KA or ENN, or using a Latin
tranlitteration of these letters in the middle of Cyrillic words, or using a strange diacritic above the vowel
written before ENN without the descender, or dropping the descenders. All these not correct localization for Kazakh
> Message du 22/04/09 23:57
> De : "Shawn Steele (???)"
> A : "Ankur Mathur" , "Mark Leisher"
> Copie à : "firstname.lastname@example.org" , "email@example.com"
> Objet : RE: Which Character sets to support for kazakh cyrillic alphabet ?
> It sounds like Andreas showed that that page is erroneous. My guess is that you can’t support all the characters
with code pages Microsoft ships, and that utf-8 would need to be used instead. This is a common state for many
> From: Ankur Mathur [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]
> Sent: wenSjaj, I'prIl 22, DIS 2009 tera' 0:12
> To: Mark Leisher
> Cc: email@example.com; Shawn Steele (???); firstname.lastname@example.org
> Subject: Re: Which Character sets to support for kazakh cyrillic alphabet ?
> I needed this information for localization (in kazakh) of a mobile device (with internet connectivity). UTF
encodings are already supported. I wanted character-sets that are specific to kazakh language, and popular enough
to be supported.
> Looking out further, I found http://www.science.co.il/language/Character-Sets.asp which directly confirmed that
iso-8859-5 and Windows-1251 cover the kazakh cyrillic alphabet.
> And so, I would be adding these character sets.
> Mark and Ed,
> Thanks for the resources you shared.
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Mark Leisher > wrote:
> The libiconv package (http://www.gnu.org/software/libiconv/) has mapping tables for two Kazakh encodings, PT192
> If anyone has a copy of an ST RK 920-91 mapping table they can make available (in printed or electronic form), or
any other Kazakh encoding other than PT192 and RK1048, I would like to include them in
> Mark Leisher
> Your collection has got two sets for cyrillic kazakh: RK1048 and PTCP154(Cyrillic-Asian).
> Is PT192 (of libiconv) equivalent to PTCP154 ?
> I think I should add support for these two as well.
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