Re: Request change name of (as yet unpublished) 1CD3 VEDIC SIGN NIHSHVASA

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Date: Tue Aug 18 2009 - 13:52:20 CDT

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    on 17/08/09 "Shriramana Sharma" wrote:
    > On 2009-Aug-17 19:21, Arno Schmitt wrote:
    > >> So, I think that the more appropriate name that you suggested was
    > >> with the word "NON-BREATHING" instead of a word that means "breating out".
    > >
    > Erm, thanks people and I'm glad that people are interested in my thread
    > but isn't discussing alternative names pointless now that they have said
    > they cannot change the official name?

    The discussion is not really requesting a name change, but about how an annotation could precise the confusing
    meaning of the adopted name (still not official, given that the character is still not officially standardized as
    is, but fixed for the rest of the balloting process, until it finally gets either standardized or rejected).

    The rest of the standariszation remains for the choice of the representative glyph (not a critical issue at this
    step, as it may still be changed after the standardization in both Unicode and ISO 10646 charts), making sure that
    the glyph is also free from copyright restrictions incompatible with the requirements of both standards and licenced
    accordingly, finding possible conflicts or ambiguities in some contexts where it could be used, determining if other
    "similar" characters should be encoded as well to avoid these ambiguities, defining the character properties, and
    finally allocating the final code point (currently proposed at 1CD3, without warranty) within some blocks, because
    not all the currently proposed characters in the pipe may be adopted, or because further characters are could be
    pending standardization, or just to conserve and maintaining the compacity of the now previous encoding space in the
    BMP (if only a full column can be kept free and unallocated, it will be left free for future uses).

    At this step, the character is only in the state of waiting for comments from various expert groups working on the
    same script, and which could not participate in the last ballot at ISO. The name is just used as the normative
    cross-reference index during this process, given that the character itself still does not have a final code point
    usable for designating the proposal unambiguously. The name is then a symbolic tracker fo these discussions (useful
    to track the discussions and index and look for past comments and unresolved issues).

    It is also not warrantied that this balloted character will be standardized immediately in the next version (it may
    have to wait for several version of ISO 10646-1 and Unicode in order to harmonize it with the rest of the standard
    or other pending characters also in discussion, and to eventually propose and adopt several alternative solutions in
    case of problems : there may even exist several distinct variants of this character used with distinct
    interpretations and possibly with contrasting glyphs for such cases).

    If all was finalized, there would not be several coordinated bollating steps in ISO working groups and at the UTC.

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