Re: On the possibility of encoding some localizable sentences in plane 7 (from Re: On the possibility of encoding webdings in Unicode)

From: William_J_G Overington (
Date: Sat Jan 29 2011 - 01:56:35 CST

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    On Friday 28 January 2011, Asmus Freytag <> wrote:
    > On 1/28/2011 7:06 AM, William_J_G Overington wrote:
    > > It could be a great project for the Unicode community with input from many people in order to produce a magnificent system that could be of great use.
    > Well, from reading the replies, I get a sense that the Unicode community is saying "no, thank you.!" to this generous offer of doing additional work. Everybody has said it a bit differently, but it comes down to the same thing in the end.
    The use of "Everybody" is far too sweeping. The use of the phrase "Most people who have posted on this topic" would, in my opinion, be fairer.
    There may be people reading this thread who are keeping an open mind on the matter and are trying to think out whether they consider that this could be a useful development. Some of them may post, or may not.
    > I think this is not least because the community is already working on magnificent system of its own that not only *could* be of great use, but already *is* of great use, and which takes dedicated effort to maintain and nurture. In case there's any doubt, I am referring of course to the core Unicode standard of encoding *characters* and not *sentences* and all its many ancillary specifications for which there are large, established user communities already.
    Yes, Unicode is of great use. Yet the fact that it is of great use as it stands is not a reason for not extending it with new encodings.
    > In other words, the time to come here with great proposals is when you have demonstrated not merely its potential, but actual utility, and when you have found a community willing to embrace and support it.
    Well, there was no harm in trying to see whether the Unicode community was willing to become interested. The idea is after all an idea that would extend the encoding of Unicode and could be of benefit to people. The emoji were encoded so why not some localizable sentences. The emoji are only a small selection of all of the pictograms that could exist and could be encoded: the localizable sentences would be only a small selection of all of the sentences that could exist.
    > In the meantime, I've filed "localizable sentences in plane 7" right next to "solar system held together by electric fields".
    Well, that is a matter for you.
    The Unicode Technical Committee makes decisions about encoding and it is for the Unicode Technical Committee to decide whether to hold a Public Review on the matter. I am aware that a Public Review is not something for which someone can apply, it is a facility available to the Unicode Technical Committee if they wish to use it to help them in their considerations.
    William Overington
    29 January 2011

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