Re: Quick survey of Apple symbol fonts (in context of the Wingding/Webding proposal)

From: Karl Pentzlin <>
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 18:45:54 +0200

Am Freitag, 15. Juli 2011 um 15:08 schrieb Andrew West:

AW> I oppose encoding graphic clones of non-graphic characters ...

I am just waiting for the killer argument against the encoding of
chart symbols.

They are not "clones", but characters by themselves, naming different entities
(invisible characters in this case). Thus, the "chart symbol"
characters are clearly distinctive of the invisible characters they
U+240A SYMBOL FOR LINE FEED is no line feed character and has no
different line breaking behavior as any other symbol character.
The chart symbols are perfect characters in the way that they have concise
semantics, a well defined glyph spectrum, and appear in plain text
(e.g. discussions of the invisible characters they name).

Am Freitag, 15. Juli 2011 um 14:36 schrieb Martin J. Dürst:

MJD> I understand the need. But then what happens is that we need a picture
MJD> in the standard for "the character that depicts an RLO (but isn't
MJD> actually one)". And then you need another character to show that
MJD> picture, and so on ad infinitum.

No, this is a sophism and not a real-world argument.
The chart symbols are visible characters like e.g. any Latin letters.
Nobody until now has proposed any character symbolizing a clearly visible
and identifiable character, such as "Symbol for Latin Capital A".
If in fact somebody proposes such, this would be a completely different topic,
and the arguments to do such (if in fact any are found) will also be
completely different.

- Karl
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