Re: UCA and Russian letter Ё

From: Leo Broukhis <>
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 13:43:14 -0800

On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Leif Halvard Silli
<> wrote:

> In «Tolkovïj slovar’ sovremennogo russkogo jazïka» from 2005
> («Dictionary over contempary Russian language»), has located words on Ё
> in its a separate category, consisting of exactly one word: Ёмкость.

This is either a mistake or a misunderstanding. There are a few dozen
words starting with Ё:

Some online dictionaries may require you to click on a word to expand
a word range.

> That, and the dictionary Leo pointed to, tell me that there is a
> difference between categorization and collation.

You're right. A primary difference is categorizing (e.g. when many
people have to check in to an event, the waiting lines may be
categorized by several primarily distinct letters of the last name), a
secondary difference isn't. Also, speaking of dictionary vs phone book
collation, I'd like to know how Ельцин vs Ёлкин would be sorted but I
don't know how to find out. During Soviet times, the "White Pages"
weren't accessible to the public.

>> It is of course possible that some people would prefer treating “ё”
>> as a primarily different letter. But it’s rather illogical to require
>> that it be treated that way at the start of a word only. I don’t
>> think collation rules need to accommodate such preferences.
> Right: To require it would be not be in tune with praxis.

I'm not in a rush. :)

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