Re: Glottal stops (bis) (was RE: Missing African Latin letters (bis))

From: Michael Everson (everson@evertype.com)
Date: Mon Dec 08 2003 - 21:18:06 EST

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    At 17:27 -0800 2003-12-08, Kenneth Whistler wrote:

    >Now I presume from Michael's assertion that there is
    >some Athabascan community *somewhere* that has started
    >to make an initial case distinction for glottal stop,
    >and that in the fonts they use, their uppercase glottal
    >stop *looks like* the IPA glottal stop, and that for
    >the body text they innovated a miniature of same. Hence
    >the conclusion that we must treat the existing form
    >as the *capital* and need to encode a new lowercase
    >form.

    That's right. Peter Constable posted an example.

    >That, however, is utterly backward. It is clear that in
    >these cases, following 100 years of monocase usage of
    >glottal stop, that the innovation (as in many adaptations
    >of IPA) is to create an uppercase letter to go with the
    >lowercase one.

    All right.

    >[By the way, I would like to get references
    >to the actual users and examples of their materials, to
    >see just how widespread this innovation actually is.]

    As would I.

    >In terms of font design, I concur with John Hudson's sense
    >of what would look harmonious as an uppercase/lowercase
    >pairing for a glottal stop in a typical font. However, to
    >accord with general IPA usage and the existing fonts showing
    >U+0294 should stay as they are. Then, *if* it turns out
    >that there is a convincing case to be made for separate
    >encoding of an uppercase glottal stop for such Athabascan
    >usage as may turn up, then the least damaging approach would
    >be, for the code charts, to use the kinds of uppercase
    >glyph models used in similar instances of after-the-fact
    >uppercase inventions based on IPA or other phonetic
    >alphabets and usages.

    A modified capital P would probably do.

    >If this is then augmented with examples showing good
    >typographic practice and actual examples of text distinguishing
    >uppercase and lowercase glottal stop, that should be sufficient
    >to let people then design and use their fonts as desired,
    >without disturbing the identity of the already existing
    >encoded character, U+0294 LATIN LETTER GLOTTAL STOP.

    I won't fight you on this one.

    -- 
    Michael Everson * * Everson Typography *  * http://www.evertype.com
    


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