Re: Missing capital H from Unicode range (see 1E96)

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Date: Mon Jul 11 2005 - 07:12:26 CDT

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    Many thanks to everyone who has contributed.

    One further query, John makes reference "SBL BibLit font (due out later
    this year) will contain a glyph for this" - do we know what the Unicode
    position for this is? IE has the capital H with bar under been accepted
    as a Unicode position - or are we simply saying the font will substitute
    the combined character when U0048+0331 is used?

    Again, many thanks.

    Phelix Leiter
    United Kingdom Hydrographic Office
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    -----Original Message-----
    From: [] On
    Behalf Of John Hudson
    Sent: 07 July 2005 08:03
    Subject: Re: Missing capital H from Unicode range (see 1E96)

    Jukka K. Korpela wrote:

    > Is there a font that contains a glyph for "H" with line under?

    The SBL BibLit font (due out later this year) will contain a glyph for
    this, since it is
    something that has been explicitly requested for semitic
    transliteration. I will probably
    provide fallback mark-to-base and mark-to-mark positioning too, in case
    users have
    diacritic combinations that are not supported in the font using
    independent glyphs. Fonts
    for scholarly work are likely to be among the first to provide extensive
    support for
    dynamic and chained mark positioning.

    > I created a trivial demo document for testing how Web browsers deal
    > with
    > this:
    > It contains just H̱ in large font size, so that it can be tested

    > using different fonts just by changing the browser's default font.
    > Internet Explorer 6 usually shows just "H" followed by a rectangle...

    One thing to watch out for in this kind of test is dynamic font
    switching. Many fonts do
    not contain a glyph for U+0331, so systems or applications may switch
    fonts to display
    this character. This will, of course, mess up any chance of decent
    display, because the
    mark from one font will not position correctly on the base from another
    font. When I
    opened your test page in Firefox, the H was displayed using my default
    browser font, but
    U+0331 was displayed using the Tahoma system font.

    John Hudson

    Tiro Typeworks
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