Approved minutes for INCITS/L2 meeting #217

L2/09-228

Last update: November 10, 2009

Approved minutes for INCITS/L2 meeting #217

August 10-14, 2009, Redmond

1. Opening remarks and introductions

Eric Muller, Chair, convened the meeting on August 10, 2009, at 11:00 am. He introduced himself as Chair.

1.1 Meeting Guidelines

The Chair stated that the meeting was operating under INCITS procedures, and called special attention to the ANSI patent policies (showing slides 1-3 of http://www.incits.org/pat_slides.pdf) and the INCITS antitrust policies (http://www.incits.org/inatrust.htm). The Chair noted that the INCITS Antitrust Guidelines applied to this committee meeting, and that it was the responsibility of all attendees, and not just the Officers, to ensure that the Guidelines are followed, and to terminate discussions if they are not.

1.2 Meeting Documents

The Chair noted that the meeting documents are obtainable from http://www.unicode.org/L2/L-curdoc.htm (using the current user ID and password). The agenda and meeting documents were posted in the required time frame.

2. Attendance and membership

2.1 Officers

2.2 Gaining and losing voting membership

Information on how membership is gained, maintained, and lost in any INCITS Technical Committee or Task Group may be found at http://www.incits.org/rd2/in080568.pdf. An overview of these requirements was introduced by the chair and was distributed to all attendees in the electronically distributed meeting documents.

2.3 Changes in representation since last meeting

No changes in representation since the last meeting.

2.4 New voting membership

No organization gained voting membership since the last meeting.

2.5 New advisory members

No organization has applied for membership since the last meeting.

2.6 Membership for this meeting

Based on the above information, the total voting membership is 11, effective at the start of this meeting. The complete list of members (both voting and advisory), as well as the attendance to this meeting is:

Members			Attendance
Organization	Class	Representative	August 10	August 11	August 12	August 13	August 14
Adobe Systems	Voting	Eric Muller, primary	x	x	x	x	x
Adobe Systems	Voting	Ken Lunde, alternate
Apple	Voting	Deborah Goldsmith, primary
		John Jenkins, alternate				x
		Peter Edberg, alternate		x	x	x	x
		Lee Collins, alternate
Google	Voting	Mark Davis, primary	x	x	x	x	x
IBM	Voting	V.S.Umamaheswaran, primary
IBM	Voting	Lisa Moore, alternate	x	x	x	x	x
Microsoft	Voting	Peter Constable, primary	x	x	x	x	x
Microsoft	Voting	Murray Sargent, alternate	x	x	x	x	x
NetApp	Voting	No representative
Sun Microsystems	Voting	Ienup Sung, primary
Sun Microsystems	Voting	Naoto Sato, alternate
Sybase	Voting	Ken Whistler, primary	x	x	x	x	x
Sybase	Voting	Ian MacLeod, alternate
Unicode	Voting	Rick McGowan, primary	x	x	x	x	x
		Mike Ksar, alternate
		Richard Cook, alternate
		Michel Suignard, alternate	x	x	x	x
University of California at Berkeley	Voting	Deborah Anderson, primary	x	x	x	x	x
Yahoo!	Voting	Craig Cummings, primary	x	x	x	x	x
		Norbert Lindenberg, alternate
		Mike McKenna, alternate
Federal Communications Commission	Liaison	Donald Draper-Campbell
INCITS/PL22.4	Liaison	Ann Bennett
Library of Congress	Liaison	Randall K. Barry
Library of Congress	Liaison	Sally McCallum

3. Approval of the Agenda

An electronic version of the agenda (L2/09-227) and supporting documents were accessible via http://www.unicode.org/L2/L-curdoc.htm. The Chair presented the agenda and made a call for any new agenda item. It was moved by Lisa Moore and seconded by Rick McGowan that the agenda be approved. The motion was passed by unanimous consent.

4. Approval of meeting minutes from L2 #216

The minutes of meeting L2 #216, May 11-15, 2009, document L2/09-108, were reviewed. No issues were raised. It was moved by Ken Whistler and seconded by Peter Edberg to accept those minutes. The motion was passed by unanimous consent.

5. Reports and liaisons

No reports.

6. Ballots

A summary of recent international ballots is available at http://www.unicode.org/L2/L-notice.htm.

6.1 International ballot reports

Doc#	Subject	Source	INCITS Due Date	Approval Criteria
L2/09-014	ISO/IEC 10646: 2003/FPDAM 6, Information technology -- Universal Multiple-Octet Coded Character Set (UCS) -- AMENDMENT 6: Bamum, Javanese, Lisu, Meetei Mayek, Samaritan, and other characters	SC2 N4049	2009-03-11	2/3
L2/09-014	Table of replies: SC2 N4065 Disposition of comments: SC2 N4074
L2/09-015	ISO/IEC 10646: 2003/PDAM 7, Information technology -- Universal Multiple-Octet Coded Character Set (UCS) -- AMENDMENT 7: Mandaic, Batak, Brahmi, Tangut, and other characters	SC2 N4052	2009-02-25	2/3
L2/09-015	Table of replies: SC2 N4063 Disposition of comments: SC2 N4076

6.2 Letter ballot results

Doc#	Subject	Source	Approval Criteria
L2/09-216	Project Subdivision Proposal for ISO/IEC 14651:2007/Amendment 2 Approved 8:0:0:3 by letter ballot: For: Adobe, Apple, IBM, Microsoft, Sun, Sybase, Unicode, Yahoo! Against: none Abstain: none No vote: Google, NetApp, University of California at Berkeley	SC2 N4072	2/3
L2/09-207	Project Subdivision Proposal for ISO/IEC 10646:2003/Amendment 8 Approved 8:0:0:3 by letter ballot: For: Adobe, Apple, IBM, Microsoft, Sun, Sybase, Unicode, Yahoo! Against: none Abstain: none No vote: Google, NetApp, University of California at Berkeley	SC2 N4073	2/3
L2/09-218	ISO/IEC 14651: 2007/FDAM 1, Information technology -- International string ordering and comparison -- Method for comparing character strings and description of the common template tailorable ordering -- AMENDMENT 1 Recommend to approve 9:0:0:2 by letter ballot: For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Sun, Sybase, Unicode, University of California at Berkeley Against: none Abstain: none No vote: NetApp, Yahoo!	SC2 N4071	2/3

6.3 New ballots

Doc#	Subject	Source	Approval Criteria
L2/09-288	ISO/IEC 10646:2003/FDAM 6, Information technology -- Universal Multiple-Octet Coded Character Set (UCS) -- AMENDMENT 6: Bamum, Javanese, Lisu, Meetei Mayek, Samaritan, and other characters It was moved by Eric Muller and seconded by Ken Whistler to recommend the approval of ISO/IEC 10646:2003/FDAM 6 without comments (L2/09-302). The motion passed 10:0:0:1 For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Sun, Sybase, Unicode, University of California at Berkeley, Yahoo! Against: none Abstain: none No vote: NetApp	SC2 N4075	2/3
L2/09-289	ISO/IEC 10646: 2003/FPDAM 7, Information technology -- Universal Multiple-Octet Coded Character Set (UCS) -- AMENDMENT 7: Mandaic, Batak, Brahmi, and other characters It was moved by Eric Muller and seconded by Ken Whistler to approve ISO/IEC 10646: 2003/FPDAM 7 without comments (L2/09-303). The motion passed 10:0:0:1 For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Sun, Sybase, Unicode, University of California at Berkeley, Yahoo! Against: none Abstain: none No vote: NetApp	SC2 N4077	2/3
L2/09-287	ISO/IEC 10646: 2003/PDAM 8, Information technology -- Universal Multiple-Octet Coded Character Set (UCS) -- AMENDMENT 8: Additional symbols, Bamum supplement, CJK Unified Ideographs Extension D, and other characters It was moved by Eric Muller and seconded by Ken Whistler to disapprove ISO/IEC 10646: 2003/PDAM 8, with comments as documented in L2/09-304. Accomodations for comments T3d, T3e and T5 would change the vote to an approval. The motion passed 10:0:0:1 For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Sun, Sybase, Unicode, University of California at Berkeley, Yahoo! Against: none Abstain: none No vote: NetApp	SC2 N4078	2/3
L2/09-269	ISO/IEC CD 10646, Information technology -- Universal Coded Character Set (UCS) It was moved by Eric Muller and seconded by Ken Whistler to approve ISO/IEC CD 10646, with comments as documented L2/09-305. The motion passed 10:0:0:1 For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Sun, Sybase, Unicode, University of California at Berkeley, Yahoo! Against: none Abstain: none No vote: NetApp	SC2 N4079	2/3
L2/09-231	National Standards Maintenance Recommendations for INCITS/ISO/IEC 8859-2 :1999 [R2005] Information technology - 8-bit single-byte coded graphic character sets - Part 2: Latin alphabet No. 2 INCITS/ISO/IEC 8859-3 :1999 [R2005] Information technology - 8-bit single-byte coded graphic character sets - Part 3: Latin alphabet No. 3 INCITS/ISO/IEC 8859-5 :1999 [R2005] Information technology - 8-bit single-byte coded graphic character sets - Part 5: Latin/Cyrillic alphabet INCITS/ISO/IEC 8859-6 :1999 [R2005] Information technology - 8-bit single-byte coded graphic character sets - Part 6: Latin/Arabic alphabet INCITS/ISO/IEC 8859-8 :1999 [R2005] Information technology - 8-bit single-byte coded graphic character sets - Part 8: Latin/Hebrew alphabet INCITS 83 :1995 [R2005] ISO Registration According to ISO 2375 - ANSI sponsorship procedures It was moved by Peter Edberg and seconded by Craig Cummings to recommend reaffirmation of those standards. The motion passed 10:0:0:1 For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Sun, Sybase, Unicode, University of California at Berkeley, Yahoo! Against: none Abstain: none No vote: NetApp
L2/09-231	National Standards Maintenance Recommendations for INCITS/ISO/IEC 10646 :2003 [2005 ] Information technology - Universal Multiple-Octet Coded Character Set (UCS) [First Edition] It was moved by Peter Edberg and seconded by Craig Cummings to recommend revision of this standard (project JTC 1.02.10646.00.00.00.02 is already under way). The motion passed 10:0:0:1 For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Sun, Sybase, Unicode, University of California at Berkeley, Yahoo! Against: none Abstain: none No vote: NetApp
L2/09-244	International Standards Maintenance Recommendations for: ISO 2047:1975 Information processing - Graphical representations for the control characters of the 7- bit coded character set It was moved by Peter Edberg and seconded by Craig Cummings: recommend to confirm this standard this standard has been adopted as a national standard (INCITS/ISO 2047:1975[1999 ]) the national publication is identical to the International Standard products based on this standard are used in the US we do not know whether this International Standard, or its national adoption, is referenced in regulations in the US The motion passed 10:0:0:1 For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Sun, Sybase, Unicode, University of California at Berkeley, Yahoo! Against: none Abstain: none No vote: NetApp

6.3 U.S. Contributions to ISO

Doc#	Subject	Source	INCITS Due Date	Approval Criteria
	It was moved by Eric Muller and seconded by Ken Whistler to send the following documents as US contributions to SC2/WG2: L2/09-074R2, Proposal to Encode the Sharada Script in ISO/IEC 10646 L2/09-245R, Proposal to encode Malayalam Dot-Reph character L2/09-273, Proposal to Encode Two Mathematical Symbols L2/09-278, On the proposed U+A78F LATIN LETTER MIDDLE DOT L2/09-301, Proposed additions to ISO/IEC 10646:2003 The motion passed 10:0:0:1 For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Sun, Sybase, Unicode, University of California at Berkeley, Yahoo! Against: none Abstain: none No vote: NetApp Note: Subsequent to the meeting, the L2 Chairman was advised by the INCITS Secretariat to clarify the effect of this motion at the next scheduled INCITS L2 meeting, November 2009: Documents L2/09-074R2, L2/09-0245R, L2/09-273, and L2/09-278 were determined to be technical expert contributions and so have been forwarded as technical expert contributions to the SC2/WG2 meeting, Tokyo, Japan, 2009-10-26/30. Document L2/09-301 has been forwarded as an USNB contribution to the SC2/WG2 meeting,Tokyo, Japan, 2009-10-26/30.			2/3

Doc#

Subject

Source

INCITS
Due Date

Approval
Criteria

It was moved by Eric Muller and seconded by Ken Whistler to send the following documents as US contributions to SC2/WG2:

L2/09-074R2, Proposal to Encode the Sharada Script in ISO/IEC 10646
L2/09-245R, Proposal to encode Malayalam Dot-Reph character
L2/09-273, Proposal to Encode Two Mathematical Symbols
L2/09-278, On the proposed U+A78F LATIN LETTER MIDDLE DOT
L2/09-301, Proposed additions to ISO/IEC 10646:2003

The motion passed 10:0:0:1

For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Sun, Sybase, Unicode, University of California at Berkeley, Yahoo!
Against: none
Abstain: none
No vote: NetApp

Note: Subsequent to the meeting, the L2 Chairman was advised by the INCITS Secretariat to clarify the effect of this motion at the next scheduled INCITS L2 meeting, November 2009:

Documents L2/09-074R2, L2/09-0245R, L2/09-273, and L2/09-278 were determined to be technical expert contributions and so have been forwarded as technical expert contributions to the SC2/WG2 meeting, Tokyo, Japan, 2009-10-26/30.
Document L2/09-301 has been forwarded as an USNB contribution to the SC2/WG2 meeting,Tokyo, Japan, 2009-10-26/30.

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7. International meetings

7.1 Future meetings

SC2 #16, Tokyo, Japan, October 30, 2009

OWG-SORT #10, Tokyo, Japan, October 26-30, 2009
OWG-SORT #11, Mountain View, CA, USA, April 19-23, 2010 (tentative, backup Canada)
WG2 #55, Tokyo, Japan, October 26-30, 2009
WG2 #56, Mountain View, CA, USA, April 19-23, 2010 (tentative, backup Canada)
WG2 #57, Republic of Korea, fall 2010 (tentative)
WG2 #58, Finland, spring 2011 (tentative)
WG2 #59, Mountain View, CA, USA, fall 2011 (tentative)

IRG #33, Danang, Vietnam, November 23-27, 2009 tentative (Pending approval)
IRG #34, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, June 2010 (Pending approval)
IRG #35, Macao SAR, November 2010 (Pending approval)
IRG#36, Japan, June 2011 (Pending approval)

Doc#	Subject	Approval Criteria
	Delegations to SC2 #16, WG2 #55, OWG-SORT #10 and IRG #33. It was moved Eric Muller and seconded by Ken Whistler that the delegations to those meetings be as recorded in document L2/09-306, L2/09-308, L2/09-307, and L2/09-309 respectively, and to authorize the delegations to submit documents on behalf of INCITS/L2 as needed during the course of the meetings. The motion passed 10:0:0:1 For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Sun, Sybase, Unicode, University of California at Berkeley, Yahoo! Against: none Abstain: none No vote: NetApp	majority

Doc#

Subject

Approval
Criteria

Delegations to SC2 #16, WG2 #55, OWG-SORT #10 and IRG #33.

It was moved Eric Muller and seconded by Ken Whistler that the delegations to those meetings be as recorded in document L2/09-306, L2/09-308, L2/09-307, and L2/09-309 respectively, and to authorize the delegations to submit documents on behalf of INCITS/L2 as needed during the course of the meetings.

The motion passed 10:0:0:1

For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Sun, Sybase, Unicode, University of California at Berkeley, Yahoo!
Against: none
Abstain: none
No vote: NetApp

majority

8. Joint UTC/L2 meeting recommendations

It was moved by Eric Muller and seconded by Rick McGowan to endorse the motions and consensus of the joint UTC/L2 meeting as recorded in document L2/09-226. The motion was passed by unanimous consent.

9. Upcoming meetings

UTC 121/L2 218: November 2-6, 2009, Cupertino, host Apple
UTC 122/L2 219: February 1-5, 2010, Mountain View, host Unicode
UTC 123/L2 220: May 10-14, 2010-, San José, host Adobe
UTC 124/L2 221: August 9-13, 2010, Redmond, host Microsoft

10. Action Items

Action items are recorded in document L-SD2.

11. Adjournment

It was moved by Ken Whistler and seconded by Murray Sargent to adjourn the meeting on August 14, 2009, at 4:43 pm. The motion was passed by unanimous consent.