Re: Unicode support on Macintosh?

From: Deborah Goldsmith (
Date: Thu Dec 09 1999 - 17:03:52 EST

on 12/9/1999 12:05 PM, Pete Resnick <> wrote:

> 1. Mail readers are just starting to deal with UTF-8 in general. The
> latest versions of OE and Netscape do, and our recently released beta
> of Eudora can display it OK. But anything older and you're up the
> creek.

I believe PowerMail also supports UTF-8.
> 2. The particular glyphs you're interested in are a problem. The s
> with dot under and t with dot under aren't in any of the normally
> installed fonts (or at least the latest version of the Apple Unicode
> Converter doesn't know of any conversion), and i with overbar is only
> in one of the Chinese fonts which I bet a bunch of people don't
> install.

Actually, i with macron (U+012B) is in all of our standard fonts: Geneva,
Times, etc. It's not in MacRoman, however, and thus only accessible through
ATSUI, which none of the mail programs use yet.

The other two are in the Extended Latin Additional range (U+1Exx) and our
fonts don't have those characters right now. However, ATSUI does fine in
displaying these characters if you have the right fonts (see image).

Of course, for this to be of use to customers, the e-mail client vendors
would have to use ATSUI (hint, hint).

Deborah Goldsmith
Manager, International Toolbox Group
Apple Computer, Inc.


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