RE: TR35 (was: Standardize TimeZone ID

From: Carl W. Brown (cbrown@xnetinc.com)
Date: Sat May 08 2004 - 09:54:31 CDT

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    Mark,

    Do you know if there is an official list of country possessions?

    Carl

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: unicode-bounce@unicode.org [mailto:unicode-bounce@unicode.org]On
    > Behalf Of Mark Davis
    > Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 5:28 PM
    > To: Carl W. Brown; Unicode List
    > Subject: Re: TR35 (was: Standardize TimeZone ID
    >
    >
    > If you look at LDML, you will see that it uses a narrow view of locale;
    > essentially those elements that are language-specific +
    > variations (like choice
    > of phonebook vs dictionary collation for German). In particular,
    > a locale does
    > not include a time zone, nor does it include a currency; those
    > are considered
    > orthogonal attributes. What an LDML locale does include is the
    > capacity to have
    > *translated names* for time zones, and *translated names* for currencies.
    >
    > If someone wants to build a broader notion of locale on top of
    > this they could
    > do so, incorporating whatever other information is important for the given
    > transactional processing, e.g., customer timezone, nearest branch office
    > timezone, customer's preferred currencies, vendor's allowed
    > currencies, seat
    > assignment, dietary restrictions (kosher, atkins, no vegetables
    > beginning with
    > the letter C, ...), security status (low-, medium-, high-risk), religious
    > preference (atheist vs theist), etc.
    >
    > Mark
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    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Carl W. Brown" <cbrown@xnetinc.com>
    > To: "Unicode List" <unicode@unicode.org>
    > Sent: Fri, 2004 May 07 14:46
    > Subject: RE: TR35 (was: Standardize TimeZone ID
    >
    >
    > > Mark,
    > >
    > > > That is not a problem. The Olson IDs are not guaranteed
    > > > to be unique, just unambiguous. And there are aliases.
    > > > Typically these are de-unified for political
    > > > purposes. Thus you may find that two different IDs produce
    > > > the same results over
    > > > the entire period of time in the database.
    > >
    > > So which timezone will the tr_TR locale in a TR35 database have?
    > "Asia/Istanbul" or "Europe/Istanbul" or both?
    > >
    > > I guess that the territory possessions list should be an
    > another database that
    > is merged.
    > >
    > > Carl
    > > >
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