Re: Gwoyeu Romatzyh marking the optional neutral tone

From: George W Gerrity (
Date: Mon Jul 13 2009 - 05:18:31 CDT

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    The tones are numbered 1–4, and the neutral tone is sometimes
    numbered 0 (zero), so perhaps it is simply the arabic numeral zero.

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    On 2009-07-13, at 19:43, Christoph Burgmer wrote:

    > Am Montag, 13. Juli 2009 schrieb Robert Abel:
    >> Hi,
    >> are you sure it is supposed to look like the scans you provided? It
    >> might be that the printing for the book was fairly limited and
    >> could not
    >> account for these characters' true glyphs?
    >> I would personally go with <U+0064><U+0325>, this provides d̥ for me
    >> which has the circle right under the d with an appropriate font.
    >> -->
    >> How encourage this is I don't know, but at least it would conform
    >> to IPA
    >> as in being voiceless or nearly so.
    > Interesting point.
    > My guess though is that it just might be a subscript Latin O, for
    > "_o_ptional
    > neutral tone".
    > I can check W. Simon's books on GR that are quoted for reference,
    > and see how
    > it renders there.
    > I think I posed the wrong question in the beginning. How to know which
    > character to use if all I have is printed material that probably
    > used rich-
    > text information to render the glyph.
    > Am I wrong looking for a plain-text solution? I believe a
    > Romanisation is so
    > basic it should be expressible in plain-text.
    > -Christoph

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