L2/08-006R

May 16, 2008

 

 

Approved minutes for INCITS/L2 meeting #211

Cupertino, February 4 – 8, 2008

 

Meeting location: Cupertino, hosted by Apple. Logistics at http://www.unicode.org/timesens/logistics-utc114.html

1. Opening of L2 meeting - remarks from the chair

2. Joint meeting with UTC

3. Administrative Agenda

3.1. Attendance and membership

Membership: Adobe, Apple, Google, HP, IBM, Microsoft, Sun, Sybase, University of California at Berkeley (observer), Unicode, Yahoo! (11)

Members in jeopardy: (0)

Members present: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Sun, Sybase, University of California at Berkeley, Unicode, Yahoo!

3.2 Approval of agenda [L2/08-005]

The agenda is approved.

3.3 Approval of meeting minutes from L2 #210 [L2/07-348]

The minutes of the previous meeting are approved.

3.4 Action items follow-up

See L2/SD-2 for the current action items.

3.5 Registration of new documents and assignment to the agenda

See L2/SD-3 for the current document register.

3.6 Upcoming meetings

UTC 115/L2 212: May 12 – 16, 2008 San José, host Adobe

UTC 116/L2 213: August 11 – 15, 2008, Redmond, host Microsoft

UTC 117/L2 214: November 3 – 7, 2008, Mountain View, host Google

UTC 118/L2 215: February 2 – 6, 2009, Mountain View, host Unicode

4. Reports and liaisons

4.1 SC2

4.3 WG2

4.3 OWG-SORT

4.4 IRG

4.4 CT22

5. Ballots

5.1 Letter ballot reports

Doc# Subject Source INCITS
Due Date
Approval
Criteria
L2/07-409 ISO/IEC 10646:2003/FDAM 3, Information Technology – Universal Multiple-Octet Coded Character Set (UCS) – Amendment 3: Lepcha, Ol Chiki, Suarashtra, Vai, and other characters SC2 N3979 November 25, 2007 2/3

Resolved 8:0:0:2 to approve with comment:

In page 18, the graphic symbols of two characters 0333 COMBINING DOUBLE LOW LINE and 0347 COMBINING EQUALS SIGN BELOW have been inappropriately modified compared to ISO/IEC 10646:2003. The double low line should never be narrower than the equals sign (they were roughly identical in ISO/IEC 10646:2003). The combining double low line should have the same width as the combining single low line (code position 0332) as originally in ISO/IEC 10646:2003 and the combining equals sign below should have the same width as the combining minus sign below (code position 0320). A note along the following lines would be desirable:

NOTE - This amendment contains graphic symbols for 0333 COMBINING DOUBLE LOW LINE and 0347 COMBINING EQUALS SIGN BELOW which have been incorrectly modified. The graphic symbol for 0333 should be restored to the symbol used in ISO/IEC 10646:2003, while the graphic symbol for 0347 should be narrowed to a width comparable with the graphic symbol for 0320 COMBINING MINUS SIGN BELOW.

For: Adobe, Apple, Google, HP, IBM, Microsoft, Sun, Unicode
Against: none
Abstain: none
No vote: Sybase, Yahoo!

5.2 International ballot reports

Doc# Subject Source INCITS
Due Date
Approval
Criteria
L2/07-409 ISO/IEC 10646:2003/FDAM 3, Information Technology – Universal Multiple-Octet Coded Character Set (UCS) – Amendment 3: Lepcha, Ol Chiki, Suarashtra, Vai, and other characters SC2 N3979 November 25, 2007 2/3

Summary of Voting: SC2 N3991 (= L2/08-009)

5.3 New ballots to vote

Doc# Subject Source INCITS
Due Date
Approval
Criteria
L2/08-010 ISO/IEC 10646: 2003/FPDAM 5, Information technology - Universal Multiple-Octet Coded Character Set (UCS) - AMENDMENT 5: Tai Tham, Tai Viet, Avestan, Egyptian Hieroglyphs, CJK Unified Ideographs Extension C, and other characters SC2 N3982 March 6, 2008 2/3
Resolved 8:1:0:1 to include technical comment T3 of document L2/08-123 in the ballot comments, and to make a yes vote conditional on the acceptance of that comment.
For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Sun, Sybase, Unicode, Yahoo!
Against: Microsoft
Abstain: none
No vote: HP
Resolved 9:0:0:1 to include technical comments T1-T2 and T4-T8 of document L2/08-123 in the ballot comments, and to make a yes vote conditional on the acceptance of comments T4-T8.
For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Sun, Sybase, Unicode, Yahoo!
Against: none
Abstain: none
No vote: HP
Resolved 9:0:0:1 to include editorial comment E1 of document L2/08-123 in the ballot comments.
For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Sun, Sybase, Unicode, Yahoo!
Against: none
Abstain: none
No vote: HP

As a result of these resolutions, the US position is to vote "No" to the ballot, with comments as in L2/08-123, and with a change to "Yes" if technical comments T3-T8 are accepted.

L2/08-008 ISO/IEC 10646: 2003/PDAM 6, Information technology - Universal Multiple-Octet Coded Character Set (UCS) - AMENDMENT 6: Imperial Aramaic, Inscriptional Parthian, Inscriptional Pahlavi, and other characters SC2 N3989 March 4, 2008 2/3
Resolved 9:0:0:1 to approve PDAM 6 with comments as in L2/08-124.
For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Sun, Sybase, Unicode, Yahoo!
Against: none
Abstain: none
No vote: HP
L2/08-012 Transmittal to INCITS Technical Committee and Task Group Chairs of the Executive Board Request for Confirmation of Liaisons - Action Item a07.147 from the September 2007 INCITS EB Meeting in071775 March 14, 2008 majority
Resolved 9:0:0:1 to confirm the liaisons with the Library of Congress and with INCITS/J4; attempts to contact the FCC liaison have been unsuccessfull.
For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Sun, Sybase, Unicode, Yahoo!
Against: none
Abstain: none
No vote: HP
L2/08-014 Delegation to international meetings SC2 #15, WG2 #53 and OWG-SORT #7     1/2
Resolved 9:0:0:1 for the delegations as listed in documents L2/08-119, L2/08-121 and L2/08-120 respectively.
For: Adobe, Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Sun, Sybase, Unicode, Yahoo!
Against: none
Abstain: none
No vote: HP

6. International meetings

6.1 Future meetings

7. Endorsement of joint UTC/L2 meeting recommendations [L2/08-004]

The motions and consensus of the joint UTC/L2 meeting are unanimously endorsed by L2.

8. Miscellaneous

8.1. FCD 19757-7

SC2 has been solicited by SC34 to comment on FCD 19757-7, Information technology - Document Schema Definition Languages (DSDL) - Part 7: Character Repertoire Description Language (CRDL) [L2/08-032]

L2 resolved unanimously to forward L2/08-125 to SC2.

8.2 FCD 15897

SC35 has issued an FCD ballot for ISO/IEC FCD 15897, Information technology - User interfaces - Procedures for registration of cultural elements [L2/08-033]

L2 resolved unanimously to forward L2/08-122 to the INCITS Executive Board.

9. Adjournment