Comments on Public Review Issues
(January 30 - May 2, 2014)

The sections below contain links to permanent feedback documents for the open Public Review Issues as well as other public feedback as of May 2,2014, since the previous cumulative document was issued prior to UTC #139 (February 2014). This document does not include feedback on moderated Public Review Issues from the forum that have been digested by the forum moderators; those are in separate documents for each of the PRIs. Grayed-out items in the Table of Contents do not have feedback here.


The links below go to directly to open PRIs and to feedback documents for them, as of May 2, 2014. Gray rows have no feedback to date.

IssueNameFeedback Link
275 Proposed Update UAX #41, Common References for Unicode Standard Annexes (feedback)
274 Proposed Update UAX #9, Unicode Bidirectional Algorithm (feedback)
273 Proposed Update UTS #39, Unicode Security Mechanisms (feedback)
272 Proposed Update UTR #36, Unicode Security Considerations (feedback)
271 Unicode 7.0.0 Beta (feedback)
270 Proposed Update UAX #31, Unicode Identifier and Pattern Syntax (feedback)
269 Proposed Update UAX #45, U-Source Ideographs (feedback)
268 Proposed Update UAX #42, Unicode Character Database in XML (feedback)
267 Proposed Update UAX #34, Unicode Named Character Sequences (feedback)
266 Proposed Update UAX #38, Unicode Unihan Database (feedback)
265 Proposed Update UAX #29, Unicode Text Segmentation (feedback)
264 Proposed Update UTS #46, Unicode IDNA Compatibility Processing (feedback)
263 Sequences to Select From Multiple C2-Conjoining Forms in Malayalam(PDF) (feedback)
262 Proposed Update UAX #44, Unicode Character Database (feedback)
261 Proposed Update UAX #15, Unicode Normalization Forms (feedback)
260 Proposed Update UTS #10, Unicode Collation Algorithm (feedback)

The links below go to locations in this document for feedback.

Feedback on Encoding Proposals
Error Reports
Other Reports


Feedback on Encoding Proposals

None at this time.

Error Reports

Date/Time: Fri Apr 11 20:19:41 CDT 2014
Name: Roozbeh Pournader
Report Type: Error Report
Opt Subject: Expected display of Tamil SA+VIRAMA+RA+II unclear

It appears that some fonts render both Tamil sequences SA+VIRAMA+RA+II and 
SHA+VIRAMA+RA+II as the shrii ligature, while some only render or the other 
as the ligature.

The Unicode Standard says that SHA+VIRAMA+RA+II should be rendered as the ligature, 
but remains silent on the expected rendering of SA+VIRAMA+RA+II (a ligature, vs a 
visible virama over the SA followed by the syllable RII).

There are opinions supporting both sides. For example, see 
https://code.google.com/p/noto/issues/detail?id=23 for some preferences for the 
visible virama font. At the same time, it appears that a lot of user data uses 
SA and expects the ligature.

UTC needs to clarify the standard rendering of SA+VIRAMA+RA+II.

Other Reports

Date/Time: Sun Apr 27 17:04:13 CDT 2014
Name: C. E. Whitehead
Report Type: Public Review Issue
Opt Subject: TR 51

{COMMENT:  whether or not you use any of the text below you do need to link 
to the Emoji faq somewhere in the references; the links you listed at the 
top do not deal with history so much as with diversity, so that is what I 
have addressed here although your document says it will not address 
diversity -- so . . . I gather you do not intend to address diversity; 
I know little about emoji in part because text messages are not free for 
me; nor about emoji history ; so the text below may not be very useful to 
you; as for suggestions for emoji for encoding, if you know of any non-Latin 
characters from say Vai or Arabic or Chinese being exchanged as emoji then 
those would be great; I know of none; do put the faq in your references however. }

As noted in the FAQ (link to reference to FAQ in resources), emoji "originated 
as ASCII character combinations" such as
They were hence traditionally based on the Latin script.
These sequences were later often replaced with images, often yellow ones.  
As noted in the FAQ, emoji appearance might however vary some with font. 
{COMMENT does the doc style provide a guide for display, font?}
New emoji have been introduced over time including some which represent 
more diverse groups; examples include
same sex emoji (and not just opposite sex ones) holding hands.
{COMMENT: I would need this myself to send 
a text
we (sis and I) r 2 meet u 9 pm
we (husband and I don't have one but no matter) r 2 meet u 8 pm
so I can see this though I am not much on any nonsense but why not if people 
exchanging these? That is the key with internet that whatever is done is based on use}

More characters that can be used as emoji are being introduced with Unicode 7.0.
Is this just referring to these?
Ornamental Dingbats
Geometric Shapes Extended

COMMENT: as I note above to me diversity would mean say encoding emoji based on 
say the Vai syllabary but are any such circulating on cell phones? }

Apple is currently working with Unicode to create more diverse emoji  {COMMENT 
howso? when? what is deadline?} which as noted typically display as yellow 
(characterized as "traditional Simpsons-yellow" in 
Pablo Toledo Buenos Aires Herald March 31, 2014 "The Campaign for More Diverse Emoji" 
{COMMENT -- I do not know if you need to link to this or not; you do if you want to 
say "traditional Simpsons-yellow" or "Simpsons-yellow"})  or white and occasionally 
{COMMENT: what about new font styles that result in more diverse-looking characters?
is Apple working on this too?
and who else is involved besides Apple/Unicode in working towards new emoji?}

Steve Colbert's ultra-conservative character (date) had fun with efforts to make emoji 
more diverse.

{COMMENT: if you say this U should put in link for Colbert; I am not sure I would 
include this; it's up to you.}

Date/Time: Mon Apr 28 08:41:33 CDT 2014
Contact: cewcathar@hotmail.com
Name: C. E. Whitehead
Report Type: Public Review Issue
Opt Subject: UTS 51

Subject: UTS 51; my previous comments

* I do see now I reference to the FAQ; so it just needs to be in the 
resources too! (-:

Also Section 1, Last Paragraph
"It does not deal with the issue of additional emoji, either
for diversity or other additions."
"The FAQ however briefly touches on emoji diversity"
{ http://www.unicode.org/faq/emoji_dingbats.html#2.4
The FAQ also briefly describes the process for requesting additional emoji characters.}

Also in my parenthetical comment where I mentioned the article that referred to 
"traditional Simpsons-yellow", I forgot the final -s on "Emojis" in the article 
title; my comment should read:
(characterized as "traditional Simpsons-yellow" in 
Pablo Toledo Buenos Aires Herald March 31, 2014 "The Campaign for More Diverse Emojis" 
{COMMENT -- I do not know if you need to link to this or not; you have to link to it 
IMO if you use the term "traditional Simpsons-yellow" or "Simpsons-yellow"})

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